Any Good Substitute for Ivory? - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T06:30:54Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/any-good-substitute-for-ivory?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A48379&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for that info Frank, j…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-14:2177249:Comment:486382010-12-14T19:44:00.463ZBruce Herrmannhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BruceHerrmann
<p>Thanks for that info Frank, just ordered enough ivory to bind the back and neck of an 1850's</p>
<p>2-34. David Warther is great guy to work with, should be the ideal repair for this old guitar.</p>
<p>Thanks for that info Frank, just ordered enough ivory to bind the back and neck of an 1850's</p>
<p>2-34. David Warther is great guy to work with, should be the ideal repair for this old guitar.</p> THANK YOU Frank! That's what…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483932010-12-10T16:50:58.463ZScot Tremblayhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ScotTremblay
<p>THANK YOU Frank! That's what I was looking for. I just assumed because of the ban no legal stuff could be had.</p>
<p>THANK YOU Frank! That's what I was looking for. I just assumed because of the ban no legal stuff could be had.</p> It's easy to get real ivory b…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483842010-12-10T15:15:21.146ZFrank Fordhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/FrankFord
<p>It's easy to get real ivory binding - two bucks an inch:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=1&sub=12" target="_blank">http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=1&sub=12</a></p>
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<p>It's easy to get real ivory binding - two bucks an inch:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=1&sub=12" target="_blank">http://www.guitarpartsandmore.com/?nav=products&cat=1&sub=12</a></p>
<p> </p> There's always the tagua ("ta…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483792010-12-10T14:44:24.706ZRob Mercurehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobMercure
<p>There's always the tagua ("ta-wha") nut often referred to as "vegetable ivory" which comes from a semi-tropical palm tree. The material once hardened/seasoned is almost visually indistinguishable from ivory although when fresh is edible as it is a complex sugar (also called "corozo" - six species in the . Phytephas genus). The "problem" with it is that each nut is only about the size of a very large apricot so it takes lots of individual pieces for binding - also, being a sugar, if you…</p>
<p>There's always the tagua ("ta-wha") nut often referred to as "vegetable ivory" which comes from a semi-tropical palm tree. The material once hardened/seasoned is almost visually indistinguishable from ivory although when fresh is edible as it is a complex sugar (also called "corozo" - six species in the . Phytephas genus). The "problem" with it is that each nut is only about the size of a very large apricot so it takes lots of individual pieces for binding - also, being a sugar, if you cut it too fast on a band saw without lubrication (water) it will burn brown giving off a caramel smell - the burnt area enters the material from the cut for 1/32- 1/16" so it's hard to restore the color by material removal. But if it's it's cut slowly and carefully it works well and once given a few months to harden is easily as hard as ivory. I've used it for nuts and saddles but with sufficient patience it could be binding material (and the scraps are handy to make ivory looking jewelry and inlay).</p>
<p>I don't have a current source as my purchase of several pounds around 15 years ago still hasn't been totally used up but a web search should find it easily. It's a high quality, inexpensive, renewable resource.</p>
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<p>Rob</p> I would love to hear if the c…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483772010-12-10T13:19:11.322ZJohn C. Murrayhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JohnCMurray
<p>I would love to hear if the corian works....</p>
<p>I would love to hear if the corian works....</p> Thanks guys, those are good s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483592010-12-10T07:33:43.107ZScot Tremblayhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ScotTremblay
<p>Thanks guys, those are good suggestions.</p>
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<p>My problem with the old piano keys (of which I have a bunch) is that they are short thin pieces so I'd have to cut and glue a lot of little pieces to get a strip (I'm just being lazy, I think). The original ivory binding is one piece the length of the side. It must have come from a strip of a tusk.</p>
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<p>I have a slab of bone colored Corian that I tried for saddles (a little too soft I thought) but never thought to try…</p>
<p>Thanks guys, those are good suggestions.</p>
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<p>My problem with the old piano keys (of which I have a bunch) is that they are short thin pieces so I'd have to cut and glue a lot of little pieces to get a strip (I'm just being lazy, I think). The original ivory binding is one piece the length of the side. It must have come from a strip of a tusk.</p>
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<p>I have a slab of bone colored Corian that I tried for saddles (a little too soft I thought) but never thought to try bending it. Have to give it a shot.</p>
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<p>The Holly or Boxwood might be the ticket but I'd like to try some lime or Hazelnut if I can find some. That old style "Ivoriod" might work as well. It looks fake to me and I got put off by the "Hazmat" rating of the stuff with the added cost for shipping from the supplier.</p>
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<p>Fussy guy eh? Every <em>negative</em>.</p>
<p> </p> Len is spot on with finding s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483552010-12-10T05:14:09.422ZJohn C. Murrayhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JohnCMurray
<p>Len is spot on with finding some old ivory from a piano guy, but if that does not work out and you MUST use an alternative and plastic is not an option, consider Boxwood or Holly...a bone colored scrap of Corian from a cabinet shop could also be fashioned into what you need...the Corian idea is a shot in the dark, I have never worked with it except experimenting making saddles and nuts...never bending it.</p>
<p>Len is spot on with finding some old ivory from a piano guy, but if that does not work out and you MUST use an alternative and plastic is not an option, consider Boxwood or Holly...a bone colored scrap of Corian from a cabinet shop could also be fashioned into what you need...the Corian idea is a shot in the dark, I have never worked with it except experimenting making saddles and nuts...never bending it.</p> Hi Scot , I guess you're awar…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-12-10:2177249:Comment:483482010-12-10T04:52:33.376ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
<p>Hi Scot , I guess you're aware of Ivory on piano keys , you could get short lengths from an old piano guy.Also ebony might be good for the black bits? Len</p>
<p>Hi Scot , I guess you're aware of Ivory on piano keys , you could get short lengths from an old piano guy.Also ebony might be good for the black bits? Len</p>