bridge cut into the top!!! Martin 1983 D28 - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T17:08:50Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/bridge-cut-into-the-top-martin-1983-d28?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A131605&feed=yes&xn_auth=nowow.. well I guess I'll consi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-04:2177249:Comment:1316742014-05-04T04:27:26.434ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>wow.. well I guess I'll consider my clock cleaned.. but thank you for the info on the fret wire... i will work on the bridge</p>
<p>fritz out</p>
<p>wow.. well I guess I'll consider my clock cleaned.. but thank you for the info on the fret wire... i will work on the bridge</p>
<p>fritz out</p> While your structural work lo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-02:2177249:Comment:1317132014-05-02T20:35:33.592ZGreg Mirkenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GregMirken
<p>While your structural work looks like it should stabilize the top, I wish you had taken more care to copy the crisp contours of the original Martin bridge. This is the only part of your repair that shows, and the non-original appearance of the bridge is disappointing.</p>
<p>Regarding your question about fretwire, Jescar 37080 is Martin fretwire, available in various tang widths. I use .0205" tang width and modify it further with Frank Ford's designed tang-squishing pliers.</p>
<p>While your structural work looks like it should stabilize the top, I wish you had taken more care to copy the crisp contours of the original Martin bridge. This is the only part of your repair that shows, and the non-original appearance of the bridge is disappointing.</p>
<p>Regarding your question about fretwire, Jescar 37080 is Martin fretwire, available in various tang widths. I use .0205" tang width and modify it further with Frank Ford's designed tang-squishing pliers.</p> That's ALL great news Fitz.
A…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1317822014-05-01T15:52:02.512ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>That's ALL great news Fitz.</p>
<p>Again, great job on what I considered likely unfix-able. My hat is off to you :) And again, very nice craftsmanship on the comp saddle. Like several others around here, I love to see highly polished bone and you brought it home.</p>
<p>And pic's? Keep 'em comin', brother. We enjoy them.</p>
<p>Keep doin' what you're doing so well :)</p>
<p>That's ALL great news Fitz.</p>
<p>Again, great job on what I considered likely unfix-able. My hat is off to you :) And again, very nice craftsmanship on the comp saddle. Like several others around here, I love to see highly polished bone and you brought it home.</p>
<p>And pic's? Keep 'em comin', brother. We enjoy them.</p>
<p>Keep doin' what you're doing so well :)</p> thanks Paul... yes of course…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1316052014-05-01T15:28:02.690ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>thanks Paul... yes of course most of the glue surface for the new bridge was the spruce patch but I did clean a sliver of finish around the perimeter for a clean bridge footprint, and yes it still needs the neck set, I just put a temporary saddle in to get some string pressure and see if everything was going to hold together. Also wanted to see how much relief I had in the neck and how much underset the neck actually is. The action is high (.140" at the low E 12 fret) I will leave it strung…</p>
<p>thanks Paul... yes of course most of the glue surface for the new bridge was the spruce patch but I did clean a sliver of finish around the perimeter for a clean bridge footprint, and yes it still needs the neck set, I just put a temporary saddle in to get some string pressure and see if everything was going to hold together. Also wanted to see how much relief I had in the neck and how much underset the neck actually is. The action is high (.140" at the low E 12 fret) I will leave it strung up for a few days and if all goes well I will neck set and re-fret in a week or so. Funny thing is the guitar sounds fantastic already even with the poor break angle ect. One more question if I may.. where do you guys get Martin fret wire with different size tangs for compression fretting? I've read about them but have never been able to find them for sale anywhere.</p>
<p>Ok I'll stop littering up the place with all the pictures and say thank you to all for the great help and support.</p>
<p>Fritz</p> Nice save, Fritz. I hope it h…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1315292014-05-01T05:29:22.612ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Nice save, Fritz. I hope it holds up. Did you scrape the existing finish so the entire replacement bridge is glued to bare wood? If not, the problem may reappear.</p>
<p>Judging by the ultra low, but finely crafted, compensated saddle, it appears that it badly needs a neck re-set. That saddle is WAY to low to adequately drive the top to get the best sound out of the body. There's not enough string break.</p>
<p>What I'm doing a very poor job of conveying is that 'if you're going to resurrect…</p>
<p>Nice save, Fritz. I hope it holds up. Did you scrape the existing finish so the entire replacement bridge is glued to bare wood? If not, the problem may reappear.</p>
<p>Judging by the ultra low, but finely crafted, compensated saddle, it appears that it badly needs a neck re-set. That saddle is WAY to low to adequately drive the top to get the best sound out of the body. There's not enough string break.</p>
<p>What I'm doing a very poor job of conveying is that 'if you're going to resurrect the guitar, go all the way & do it right'. We're rooting for ya.</p>
<p>Again, a very nice job and best of luck with the re-set :)</p> new bridgetag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1314762014-05-01T04:59:26.419ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>new bridge</p>
<p>new bridge</p> few moretag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1315232014-05-01T04:54:09.199ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>few more</p>
<p>few more</p> few moretag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1315962014-05-01T04:44:41.292ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>few more</p>
<p>few more</p> pics of the patch ect..tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1315922014-05-01T04:43:01.276ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>pics of the patch ect..</p>
<p>pics of the patch ect..</p> well I have the new bridge pl…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-01:2177249:Comment:1316852014-05-01T04:41:01.561ZFritz Froeschnerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/normanfritzfroeschner
<p>well I have the new bridge plate installed and two smaller " wings" ala David Farmers repair.. cleaned up and leveled the bridge footprint, cut, glued and clamped the spruce patch for the top... leveled the patch, made and glued on a new slightly larger bridge, let it all set up for a few days and tonight put in a temp saddle, some strings and tuned it up. All looks great at the bridge and top. No bellying up behind the bridge other than normal. I'll leave it strung up for a few days to test…</p>
<p>well I have the new bridge plate installed and two smaller " wings" ala David Farmers repair.. cleaned up and leveled the bridge footprint, cut, glued and clamped the spruce patch for the top... leveled the patch, made and glued on a new slightly larger bridge, let it all set up for a few days and tonight put in a temp saddle, some strings and tuned it up. All looks great at the bridge and top. No bellying up behind the bridge other than normal. I'll leave it strung up for a few days to test all the glue joints but I think It's going to be fine.</p>