Do I need a neck reset? - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T11:58:42Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/do-i-need-a-neck-reset?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A72932&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI suppose the two bolts are e…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-30:2177249:Comment:731702011-09-30T16:15:18.953ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
<p><em><strong>I suppose the two bolts are enough to hold the neck in place.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Absolutely--why wouldn't they be?<em><strong> </strong></em></p>
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<p><em><strong>I suppose the two bolts are enough to hold the neck in place.</strong></em></p>
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<p>Absolutely--why wouldn't they be?<em><strong> </strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong><br/></strong></em></p> Sorry the link didn't work. I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-29:2177249:Comment:729592011-09-29T18:31:59.263ZMarkinCOhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KellyeMarkin
<p>Sorry the link didn't work. I should have checked it. Here's another attempt in case anyone is interested to see more pics of this type of joint. <a href="http://www.tdpri.com/forum/acoustic-heaven/272251-1976-mossman-great-plains.html" target="_blank">Mossman neck reset</a></p>
<p>No shims, huh? The tapered mortise and tenon is not a mechanical fit like the dovetail? I suppose the two bolts are enough to hold the neck in place. Taylor gets away with it on some models. I built a classical…</p>
<p>Sorry the link didn't work. I should have checked it. Here's another attempt in case anyone is interested to see more pics of this type of joint. <a href="http://www.tdpri.com/forum/acoustic-heaven/272251-1976-mossman-great-plains.html" target="_blank">Mossman neck reset</a></p>
<p>No shims, huh? The tapered mortise and tenon is not a mechanical fit like the dovetail? I suppose the two bolts are enough to hold the neck in place. Taylor gets away with it on some models. I built a classical with a butt joint and 2 neck bolts ... works fine.</p> I couldn't get your link to w…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-29:2177249:Comment:730562011-09-29T17:01:00.390ZMark A. Kanehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarkAKane
I couldn't get your link to work so I found this photo for you. I cut the heel in essentially the same manner as one would with most conventional necks but I didn't shim the joint in any way, nor did I bother with glue as these studs are STOUT! I glued the F/B extension of course.
I couldn't get your link to work so I found this photo for you. I cut the heel in essentially the same manner as one would with most conventional necks but I didn't shim the joint in any way, nor did I bother with glue as these studs are STOUT! I glued the F/B extension of course. "Two neck bolts" you say.....…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-29:2177249:Comment:730512011-09-29T05:14:13.635ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
"Two neck bolts" you say.......surely this qualifies it as a "Frankenstein" guitar?
"Two neck bolts" you say.......surely this qualifies it as a "Frankenstein" guitar? Mark, thanks for the info. I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-29:2177249:Comment:729542011-09-29T03:38:56.911ZMarkinCOhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KellyeMarkin
<p>Mark, thanks for the info. I found this post about Mossman neck resets. <a href="http://http://www.tdpri.com/forum/acoustic-heaven/272251-1976-mossman-great-plains.html" target="_blank">Mossman neck reset</a> Scroll down towards the bottom to see pics of the joint. If your pics have any additional views or something you think I would want to see, please pass them on. They say it's a tapered mortise and tenon joint. Do you reset this type of joint in the same manner as a dovetail or do you…</p>
<p>Mark, thanks for the info. I found this post about Mossman neck resets. <a href="http://http://www.tdpri.com/forum/acoustic-heaven/272251-1976-mossman-great-plains.html" target="_blank">Mossman neck reset</a> Scroll down towards the bottom to see pics of the joint. If your pics have any additional views or something you think I would want to see, please pass them on. They say it's a tapered mortise and tenon joint. Do you reset this type of joint in the same manner as a dovetail or do you shim it like a bolt on Taylor neck?</p>
<p>I looked at my neck block again and sure enough, there was a piece of mahogany glued to the block. I removed it and there were the two neck bolts.</p> I have some pics of a Mossman…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-29:2177249:Comment:729502011-09-29T00:13:43.789ZMark A. Kanehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarkAKane
I have some pics of a Mossman neck joint on my computer at work. As best as I can recall, it has 2 studs threaded into what I'd call a negative straight dovetail (opposite of a conventional dovetail). It was glued and screwed together. I was able to steam it apart with little trouble. I recall doing a couple of these over the past few years and finding them fairly straightforward to repair.
I have some pics of a Mossman neck joint on my computer at work. As best as I can recall, it has 2 studs threaded into what I'd call a negative straight dovetail (opposite of a conventional dovetail). It was glued and screwed together. I was able to steam it apart with little trouble. I recall doing a couple of these over the past few years and finding them fairly straightforward to repair. What they lacked in engineeri…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-28:2177249:Comment:731472011-09-28T18:00:01.052ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
<p><strong><em>What they lacked in engineering and execution, they made up for with titebond. Lots of titebond.</em></strong></p>
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<p>My first good laugh of the day, thanks!<strong><em><br/></em></strong></p>
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<p><strong><em>What they lacked in engineering and execution, they made up for with titebond. Lots of titebond.</em></strong></p>
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<p>My first good laugh of the day, thanks!<strong><em><br/></em></strong></p>
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<p><strong><em><br/></em></strong></p> "To breathe life into"
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<p><strong>"To breathe life into" </strong> </p>
<p>Ahhhhh...that's much more of a poetic and lucid description.</p>
<p>I'm gonna to use that phrase whenever appropriate.</p>
<p>Thanks Jeff. (: (:</p>
<p><strong>"To breathe life into" </strong> </p>
<p>Ahhhhh...that's much more of a poetic and lucid description.</p>
<p>I'm gonna to use that phrase whenever appropriate.</p>
<p>Thanks Jeff. (: (:</p> Thanks everyone. I thought I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-28:2177249:Comment:729392011-09-28T14:28:03.339ZMarkinCOhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KellyeMarkin
<p>Thanks everyone. I thought I was on the right track but just wanted to be sure.</p>
<p>I have also heard that Mossman neck joints can be tricky. I am a fledgling luthier and need more experience on neck resetting before taking on the Mossman. I guess it will have to sit in the corner for a while. The neck does not appear to be bolted on. I don't see any bolts in the neck block. If anyone has any info on Mossman neck joints, please pass that along ... or maybe I should start a new thread…</p>
<p>Thanks everyone. I thought I was on the right track but just wanted to be sure.</p>
<p>I have also heard that Mossman neck joints can be tricky. I am a fledgling luthier and need more experience on neck resetting before taking on the Mossman. I guess it will have to sit in the corner for a while. The neck does not appear to be bolted on. I don't see any bolts in the neck block. If anyone has any info on Mossman neck joints, please pass that along ... or maybe I should start a new thread about these neck joints.</p> I can tell you from experienc…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-09-28:2177249:Comment:729362011-09-28T13:05:59.591ZHugh Hansenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/HughHansen
I can tell you from experience that Mossman neck sets are interesting. Some are a straight bolt on, glue on, mortise and tenon, and some are a kind of hybrid reverse dovetail, bolt on, glue on sort of thing that would be high in the running for worst neck joint idea ever. What they lacked in engineering and execution, they made up for with titebond. Lots of titebond. A neck set would help, but even properly set up Mossmans tend to be rather tight sounding due to the fact that each one has…
I can tell you from experience that Mossman neck sets are interesting. Some are a straight bolt on, glue on, mortise and tenon, and some are a kind of hybrid reverse dovetail, bolt on, glue on sort of thing that would be high in the running for worst neck joint idea ever. What they lacked in engineering and execution, they made up for with titebond. Lots of titebond. A neck set would help, but even properly set up Mossmans tend to be rather tight sounding due to the fact that each one has enough bracing for two guitars.