Finish over waxed body... - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T00:44:48Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/finish-over-waxed-bady?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A122392&feed=yes&xn_auth=no While it is true that silico…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-07:2177249:Comment:1233782013-12-07T13:50:51.658ZErnest Kleinmanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ErnestKleinman
<p> While it is true that silicones can contaminate finishes.I remember years ago reading about remedies for dealing with these pesky silicones.I would google silicone removal in finishing and see what comes up.</p>
<p> While it is true that silicones can contaminate finishes.I remember years ago reading about remedies for dealing with these pesky silicones.I would google silicone removal in finishing and see what comes up.</p> IIRC, if the wax included any…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-07:2177249:Comment:1235092013-12-07T02:45:55.908ZLARRY KLOSEhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>IIRC, if the wax included any silicone, it probably will be close to impossible to remedy or remove its negative effects. Take a look around Frank's <a href="http://www.frets.com" target="_blank">www.frets.com</a> for info on that.</p>
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<p>IIRC, if the wax included any silicone, it probably will be close to impossible to remedy or remove its negative effects. Take a look around Frank's <a href="http://www.frets.com" target="_blank">www.frets.com</a> for info on that.</p>
<p>Larry</p> I would use a multi progress…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-07:2177249:Comment:1233692013-12-07T02:21:22.851ZErnest Kleinmanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ErnestKleinman
<p> I would use a multi progression of cleaners first naptha, laquer thinner , or xylene and then alcohol, on the old finish too make sure that any residue or any type of crud was cleaned away.. I would use platina or super blonde dewaxed shellac under a laquer finish . You might have problems with the waxed shellac adhering to the new coat of laquer. Hard to say without seing .Or in lieu of the waxed shellac you could use a type of sealer that would keep the old finish isolated from the…</p>
<p> I would use a multi progression of cleaners first naptha, laquer thinner , or xylene and then alcohol, on the old finish too make sure that any residue or any type of crud was cleaned away.. I would use platina or super blonde dewaxed shellac under a laquer finish . You might have problems with the waxed shellac adhering to the new coat of laquer. Hard to say without seing .Or in lieu of the waxed shellac you could use a type of sealer that would keep the old finish isolated from the new top coat .I would only use a waxed shellac under an oil based varnish.Bon Chance</p> Hi all,
Well it seems my pre…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-05:2177249:Comment:1234252013-12-05T18:50:57.956ZAlain Moisanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/AlainMoisan
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<p>Well it seems my previous cheering for victory were a bit premature...</p>
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<p>As soon as I gently level sanded the finish, the waxed spots came back to hunt me! And I really was gentle, trust me. </p>
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<p>The 'mid-way there' solution I have found is to use wipe-on polyurethane. For some reason that eludes me, the wipe-on poly seems to adhere better to the waxed spots. There are spots left, but it'll have to do.</p>
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<p>At least the owner knew…</p>
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<p>Well it seems my previous cheering for victory were a bit premature...</p>
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<p>As soon as I gently level sanded the finish, the waxed spots came back to hunt me! And I really was gentle, trust me. </p>
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<p>The 'mid-way there' solution I have found is to use wipe-on polyurethane. For some reason that eludes me, the wipe-on poly seems to adhere better to the waxed spots. There are spots left, but it'll have to do.</p>
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<p>At least the owner knew it might be problematic, so I'm sort of off the hook. Since he is the one who applied the wax in the first place, he feels kind of bad actually.</p> Good for you Alain some times…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-02:2177249:Comment:1230422013-12-02T16:24:22.470ZWilliam F.Edenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/WilliamFEden
<p>Good for you Alain some times you just have to resort to someting different to get the answer.Good luck with the finsh.Bill.........</p>
<p>Good for you Alain some times you just have to resort to someting different to get the answer.Good luck with the finsh.Bill.........</p> A little update on this issue…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-12-02:2177249:Comment:1229662013-12-02T15:14:49.881ZAlain Moisanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/AlainMoisan
<p>A little update on this issue.</p>
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<p>It seems I finally succeeded in my fight against stubborn wax spots! So matter what I would use to dissolve the wax, there always seem to remain tiny bits within wood grain that repulsed any finish I would try to put on it.</p>
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<p>The solution was found a bit by accident, while I was washing out shellac from the top with acetone. When wiping a rag wet with acetone on the shellac I wanted to remove, the partly dissolved shellac spread…</p>
<p>A little update on this issue.</p>
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<p>It seems I finally succeeded in my fight against stubborn wax spots! So matter what I would use to dissolve the wax, there always seem to remain tiny bits within wood grain that repulsed any finish I would try to put on it.</p>
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<p>The solution was found a bit by accident, while I was washing out shellac from the top with acetone. When wiping a rag wet with acetone on the shellac I wanted to remove, the partly dissolved shellac spread on the surface and seemed rto stick to teh previously waxed spots. So I mixed 50/50 acetone and shellac (Zinnser seal coat), wiped the entire body, and voilà! I had to come back on a few spots here and there by light sanding and reapplying the mix, but I finally got through it. I can now start building the final finish!</p>
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<p>Thanks for all your help!</p>
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<p> </p> Thanx for the welcome mate !…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-11-27:2177249:Comment:1229012013-11-27T02:35:47.409Zsprockethttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/sprocket
<p>Thanx for the welcome mate ! Where are you at now ! I m in near Granby area .</p>
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<p>Luthery s a kind of passion , never made a bass ( I m a bassist ) but always been fascinated by this luthery matters .</p>
<p>Thanx for the welcome mate ! Where are you at now ! I m in near Granby area .</p>
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<p>Luthery s a kind of passion , never made a bass ( I m a bassist ) but always been fascinated by this luthery matters .</p> I forgot about ammonia...my m…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-11-26:2177249:Comment:1225642013-11-26T00:06:45.841ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>I forgot about ammonia...my mom used it to strip wax from hardwood floors before rewaxing.</p>
<p>I forgot about ammonia...my mom used it to strip wax from hardwood floors before rewaxing.</p> Well, I don't think I have ac…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-11-25:2177249:Comment:1225532013-11-25T18:33:50.238ZAlain Moisanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/AlainMoisan
<p>Well, I don't think I have access to that product near me (without ordering it). But the pletoria of other solutions that has been suggested here should do the trick I believe.</p>
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<p>But thanks anyway!</p>
<p>Well, I don't think I have access to that product near me (without ordering it). But the pletoria of other solutions that has been suggested here should do the trick I believe.</p>
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<p>But thanks anyway!</p> Thanks for the welcome, and t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-11-25:2177249:Comment:1226282013-11-25T18:32:19.410ZAlain Moisanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/AlainMoisan
<p>Thanks for the welcome, and the black light advice. I will try that, I happen to have just bought a black light for guitar building purposes! I use it to see where I need to sand porefiller that remains on the surface (i use Crystallac -- for now, that may change -- and it creates blotchy milky stains under the finish if you leave some on the surface. And it is quite hard to see it when it's thin, thus the black light).</p>
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<p>Thanks for the welcome, and the black light advice. I will try that, I happen to have just bought a black light for guitar building purposes! I use it to see where I need to sand porefiller that remains on the surface (i use Crystallac -- for now, that may change -- and it creates blotchy milky stains under the finish if you leave some on the surface. And it is quite hard to see it when it's thin, thus the black light).</p>
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