Gibson bridge radius screw-ups - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T10:02:47Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/gibson-bridge-radius-screw-ups?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A156905&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYep, we use their stuff for t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-08:2177249:Comment:1614372016-07-08T23:21:46.865ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>Yep, we use their stuff for the occasional clone and it's just plain straight good. Would recommend this gear on the basis of it's high quality. Thumbs up.</p>
<p>Rusty.</p>
<p>Yep, we use their stuff for the occasional clone and it's just plain straight good. Would recommend this gear on the basis of it's high quality. Thumbs up.</p>
<p>Rusty.</p> Me as well…the BEST ABR-1 T.O…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-08:2177249:Comment:1612782016-07-08T18:38:00.860ZStewart C Simonhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/StewartCSimon
<p>Me as well…the BEST ABR-1 T.O.M. out there…!!!</p>
<p>I have one on my Firebird VIII, and have installed several of them on LP's and 335's.</p>
<p>They make an amazing difference in clarity, definition, and stability…:-)</p>
<p>Me as well…the BEST ABR-1 T.O.M. out there…!!!</p>
<p>I have one on my Firebird VIII, and have installed several of them on LP's and 335's.</p>
<p>They make an amazing difference in clarity, definition, and stability…:-)</p> I really like these:
http://…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-08:2177249:Comment:1614342016-07-08T02:03:11.599ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>I really like these:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm</a></p>
<p>I really like these:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.callahamguitars.com/abr1.htm</a></p> Rusty,
I did a little googlin…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-07:2177249:Comment:1614872016-07-07T06:05:53.921Zsteven gallagherhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/stevengallagher
<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>I did a little googling on this subject, e.g. "does a string vibrate in an elliptical pattern", and found the idea quite rampant in luthier circles. I don't know how the idea got started, but it has definitely taken root.</p>
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<p>Perhaps Peter Poyser could add a few words. :-)</p>
<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>I did a little googling on this subject, e.g. "does a string vibrate in an elliptical pattern", and found the idea quite rampant in luthier circles. I don't know how the idea got started, but it has definitely taken root.</p>
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<p>Perhaps Peter Poyser could add a few words. :-)</p> A heavy guitar isn't necessar…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-30:2177249:Comment:1612562016-06-30T23:17:08.738ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>A heavy guitar isn't necessarily a good thing unless you only want the sound of the pickups. Heavier wood takes a lot of acoustic energy to excite it into resonance. There is a question as to how the sound of the wood could be captured by any solid body electric guitar but I suppose the bridge and pickups could move very subtly. In any case, a lighter guitar is better at preventing back problems later on down the line.</p>
<p>A heavy guitar isn't necessarily a good thing unless you only want the sound of the pickups. Heavier wood takes a lot of acoustic energy to excite it into resonance. There is a question as to how the sound of the wood could be captured by any solid body electric guitar but I suppose the bridge and pickups could move very subtly. In any case, a lighter guitar is better at preventing back problems later on down the line.</p> Hi Steven,
The sonic frequenc…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-30:2177249:Comment:1612552016-06-30T00:42:27.207ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>The sonic frequency generated by a plucked string is sinusoidal (ie: back and forth/up and down in a layman's speak) and the movement becomes what is known is know as "lambda" or wavelength. That frequency, in this case is generated by a string subscribing a roughly (its a complex subject) eliptical path if plucked "pure" and generating a frequency dependent on its fretted length. There are also harmonics generated and string "wobbles" dependent on where the string is…</p>
<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>The sonic frequency generated by a plucked string is sinusoidal (ie: back and forth/up and down in a layman's speak) and the movement becomes what is known is know as "lambda" or wavelength. That frequency, in this case is generated by a string subscribing a roughly (its a complex subject) eliptical path if plucked "pure" and generating a frequency dependent on its fretted length. There are also harmonics generated and string "wobbles" dependent on where the string is plucked but that another story.</p>
<p>Also roughly speaking that's why we put in some elliptical relief in the neck during set-up - to allow the string to travel it's fundamental path without banging into the frets. There is a whole lot more happening but that just the basics upon which we build our knowledge.</p>
<p>Gotta fly, the guitars (and customers) are on my case.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Rusty.</p> Hi Rusty,
Do strings travel i…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-29:2177249:Comment:1613022016-06-29T16:51:15.968Zsteven gallagherhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/stevengallagher
<p>Hi Rusty,</p>
<p>Do strings travel in an elliptical path? Physics books always describe their path as sinusoidal. Of course, there are overtones/harmonics as well, but those are also sinusoidal.</p>
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<p>I realize this has probably no effect on guitar setup. Just curious.</p>
<p>Hi Rusty,</p>
<p>Do strings travel in an elliptical path? Physics books always describe their path as sinusoidal. Of course, there are overtones/harmonics as well, but those are also sinusoidal.</p>
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<p>I realize this has probably no effect on guitar setup. Just curious.</p> Hello Brian (in absentee),
Co…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-29:2177249:Comment:1611652016-06-29T09:47:46.076ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>Hello Brian (in absentee),</p>
<p>Couple of things here, have you ever noticed when setting up something like a Strat that the strings get a bit higher towards the bass side of the board to allow for their increasing elliptical path to clear the frets. </p>
<p>This effectively changes the radius of the strings at the bridge to a somewhat flatter version of the standard 9.5" radius or so, which is what you get when you tilt a flatter radiused TOM to achieve a bit more clearance on the bass…</p>
<p>Hello Brian (in absentee),</p>
<p>Couple of things here, have you ever noticed when setting up something like a Strat that the strings get a bit higher towards the bass side of the board to allow for their increasing elliptical path to clear the frets. </p>
<p>This effectively changes the radius of the strings at the bridge to a somewhat flatter version of the standard 9.5" radius or so, which is what you get when you tilt a flatter radiused TOM to achieve a bit more clearance on the bass side. It's a nuanced thing and not addressed in the 101's which tend to favor a standard fret radius gauge approach to all ills - I use gauges but understand that a 12" may more suitable to set up a 9.5" radius neck etc. </p>
<p>What Paul said is just geometry and technical technique combined to give a solution to the problem at hand - hardly elitist stuff or opinion - it's just a quick cut to the chase from someone who has more time on the tools than most of us but very little free time to get the message across. Breath.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Rusty. </p>
<p></p> Gibson's bridges are still ma…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-29:2177249:Comment:1612452016-06-29T03:01:19.059ZStewart C Simonhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/StewartCSimon
<p>Gibson's bridges are still made with '50's manufacturing technology.</p>
<p>Cast out of Mazak and poorly machined everything else that creates huge variances in all aspects drastically effecting doing a proper Setup….radius problems, saddles that won't move or stay put, loose screws, etc.</p>
<p>Plus tonally…pot metal isn't exactly a good sonic transfer…</p>
<p>Put a Callaham T.O.M. on it …;-)</p>
<p>Gibson's bridges are still made with '50's manufacturing technology.</p>
<p>Cast out of Mazak and poorly machined everything else that creates huge variances in all aspects drastically effecting doing a proper Setup….radius problems, saddles that won't move or stay put, loose screws, etc.</p>
<p>Plus tonally…pot metal isn't exactly a good sonic transfer…</p>
<p>Put a Callaham T.O.M. on it …;-)</p> You absolutely fail to see my…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-03-05:2177249:Comment:1569072016-03-05T17:24:24.673ZBrian Harthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianHart
<p>You absolutely fail to see my OPINION that if they were to use a bridge that requires less manipulation we would all be better off. I have used the traditional method also and understood it well before you made mention of it. You come across as an absolute elitist. I won't be following MY post any longer now that it's been shit all over. </p>
<p>You absolutely fail to see my OPINION that if they were to use a bridge that requires less manipulation we would all be better off. I have used the traditional method also and understood it well before you made mention of it. You come across as an absolute elitist. I won't be following MY post any longer now that it's been shit all over. </p>