Half semitones fretboard - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T13:10:46Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/half-semitones-fretboard?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A97636&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEugen, the way a lot of folks…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-03-11:2177249:Comment:1048292013-03-11T16:05:50.371ZKerry Krishnahttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p>Eugen, the way a lot of folks do the quarter tone fretboard is that after 14th fret (or there abouts) IF they want to continue it, they start using progressively smaller width fretwire. </p>
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<p>Eugen, the way a lot of folks do the quarter tone fretboard is that after 14th fret (or there abouts) IF they want to continue it, they start using progressively smaller width fretwire. </p>
<p></p> These people have been doing…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-03-11:2177249:Comment:1048962013-03-11T13:53:29.547ZAlexander Lópezhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/AlexanderLopez
<p>These people have been doing quarter-tone necks for a while. Note how different it looks, instead of evenly logaritmic spaced frets, there are others installed at "half space". Weird.</p>
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<p>These people have been doing quarter-tone necks for a while. Note how different it looks, instead of evenly logaritmic spaced frets, there are others installed at "half space". Weird.</p>
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The fretboard was flat…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-03-07:2177249:Comment:1039652013-03-07T09:35:32.251ZEugen Chttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EugenC
<p>Update</p>
<p>The fretboard was flat so I made a 16" radius.</p>
<p>Then, using the fretboard calculator that <a class="fn url" href="http://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3mgw4lce35cax">Jeff Highland</a> recommended (Thank you!) I started the frets slots cutting.</p>
<p>First I needed a device to hold the neck and to measure the new frets placements.</p>
<p>After a lot of head-scratching I end up with this device:…</p>
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<p>Update</p>
<p>The fretboard was flat so I made a 16" radius.</p>
<p>Then, using the fretboard calculator that <a href="http://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3mgw4lce35cax" class="fn url">Jeff Highland</a> recommended (Thank you!) I started the frets slots cutting.</p>
<p>First I needed a device to hold the neck and to measure the new frets placements.</p>
<p>After a lot of head-scratching I end up with this device:</p>
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<p>and I had this</p>
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<p>I put new frets only up to the 16th "normal" fret, thinking that after that will be too hard to use them.</p>
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<p>Initially I wanted to leave the fretboard markers in place but in the end I filled the holes with wood powder and CA and put side markers.</p>
<p>I was thinking that with all these new frets, the "normal" frets would be hard to find so I put some little pieces of white binding in the "normal" frets ends.</p>
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<p>Now I just have to level, recrown and polish the frets, all 38 of them :D </p>
<p></p> Thank you, very good link :)tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-29:2177249:Comment:976542012-11-29T14:01:49.324ZEugen Chttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EugenC
<p>Thank you, very good link :)</p>
<p>Thank you, very good link :)</p> I don't think that he has a w…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:975802012-11-28T19:37:33.967ZEugen Chttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EugenC
<p>I don't think that he has a web site.</p>
<p>And "oriental" in this part of the world (Eastern Europe) is more of "turkey music" or arabian music.</p>
<p>I don't think that he has a web site.</p>
<p>And "oriental" in this part of the world (Eastern Europe) is more of "turkey music" or arabian music.</p> "I think that my customer pla…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:975762012-11-28T18:41:40.352ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>"I think that my customer plays oriental music."</p>
<p>Now that makes sense to me (not hat it needed to). Like Kerry said, I've 'seen' a few guitars with this type of mod; just never a bass.</p>
<p>Does your customer have a website where we will be able to hear your "customized" results? I really enjoy Asian flavored music.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>"I think that my customer plays oriental music."</p>
<p>Now that makes sense to me (not hat it needed to). Like Kerry said, I've 'seen' a few guitars with this type of mod; just never a bass.</p>
<p>Does your customer have a website where we will be able to hear your "customized" results? I really enjoy Asian flavored music.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Paul</p> I think that my customer play…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:975692012-11-28T13:29:49.021ZEugen Chttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EugenC
<p>I think that my customer plays oriental music.</p>
<p>I think that my customer plays oriental music.</p> He totally used them Ned. He…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:977972012-11-28T09:46:32.286ZKerry Krishnahttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p> He totally used them Ned. He was/is a spectacular and quite well known Canadian/Winnipeg guitar player by the name of Ron Tomasson. He was the guitar player that replaced Luke Doucet (Whitehorse/ The White Falcons/Sarah Maclauklin) in Acoustically Inclined in their later years.</p>
<p>You have to be able to use a different part of your brain to play those notes and it make sense. Ron made that guitar/experiment make sense... </p>
<p> He totally used them Ned. He was/is a spectacular and quite well known Canadian/Winnipeg guitar player by the name of Ron Tomasson. He was the guitar player that replaced Luke Doucet (Whitehorse/ The White Falcons/Sarah Maclauklin) in Acoustically Inclined in their later years.</p>
<p>You have to be able to use a different part of your brain to play those notes and it make sense. Ron made that guitar/experiment make sense... </p> I sometimes use these notes…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:975632012-11-28T06:35:53.769ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
<p> I sometimes use these notes in my music but, fortunately, I tune up and they disappear.</p>
<p> I mentioned this thread to my wife and she tells me that there is a growing movement in classical music to use some of these atonal sounds as accents. I can't imagine what a fretboard where every fret was out of tune with the frets on either side would be like to use. </p>
<p> Kerry, did the friend you had who could play the clone actually use the, for lack of a better term, shifted key frets…</p>
<p> I sometimes use these notes in my music but, fortunately, I tune up and they disappear.</p>
<p> I mentioned this thread to my wife and she tells me that there is a growing movement in classical music to use some of these atonal sounds as accents. I can't imagine what a fretboard where every fret was out of tune with the frets on either side would be like to use. </p>
<p> Kerry, did the friend you had who could play the clone actually use the, for lack of a better term, shifted key frets or did he play around them? </p> Sometime in the mid 80's I ha…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-11-28:2177249:Comment:975602012-11-28T03:47:22.402ZJohnhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/John631
<p>Sometime in the mid 80's I had a Turkish customer that wanted quarter tone frets in his guitar however he only wanted 3 it has something to do with the Saz having quarter tones in the same places. He had me put them between the 2nd and 3rd the 4th and 5th and the 6th and 7th frets. I happened to have a book with the measurements although later on he told me it didn't really matter, the quarter tones were passing notes and they didn't sound in tune to him either. Over the next few months I…</p>
<p>Sometime in the mid 80's I had a Turkish customer that wanted quarter tone frets in his guitar however he only wanted 3 it has something to do with the Saz having quarter tones in the same places. He had me put them between the 2nd and 3rd the 4th and 5th and the 6th and 7th frets. I happened to have a book with the measurements although later on he told me it didn't really matter, the quarter tones were passing notes and they didn't sound in tune to him either. Over the next few months I had several other guys come in to get the same thing done. After the first one it was easy money and very happy customers.</p>