Hide glue as pore filler? - FRETS.NET2024-04-10T06:22:47Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/hide-glue-as-pore-filler?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A280566&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noi have tried it once on a cla…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2021-08-27:2177249:Comment:2805662021-08-27T21:48:02.208Zwood addicthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/Beerent
<p>i have tried it once on a classical top refin. it was fairly easy, but i went through a bit of sandpaper as there is no wet sanding to get out any imperfections AND it loads up the sandpaper that you are using.</p>
<p>i have tried it once on a classical top refin. it was fairly easy, but i went through a bit of sandpaper as there is no wet sanding to get out any imperfections AND it loads up the sandpaper that you are using.</p> Hello Roger and Doug,
Thanks…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-01-15:2177249:Comment:1899972020-01-15T16:21:50.501ZBrian Burnshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianBurns
<p>Hello Roger and Doug,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments (:->)...</p>
<p>A couple of clarifications. Wenge has to be one of the most porous of the hardwoods---great tap tone. Ervin and I agree that it comes the closest to sounding like the Brazilian that we could buy back in the old days.</p>
<p>The "odorless cyano" has quite a rubbery consistency when set up---might even not be cyano...The wenge back filled with it was so dead that I didn't even bother to test it for damping. I just gave…</p>
<p>Hello Roger and Doug,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments (:->)...</p>
<p>A couple of clarifications. Wenge has to be one of the most porous of the hardwoods---great tap tone. Ervin and I agree that it comes the closest to sounding like the Brazilian that we could buy back in the old days.</p>
<p>The "odorless cyano" has quite a rubbery consistency when set up---might even not be cyano...The wenge back filled with it was so dead that I didn't even bother to test it for damping. I just gave the student a new wenge back. The guitar was eventually finished by Haiying using the usual pumice and shellac method, and is quite successful.</p>
<p>More clarifications: I'll be sanding back to the wood so that there isn't any glue left on the surface, just in the pores.</p>
<p>I'm starting a test today of a comparison of a shellac pore fill and an HHG pore fill. They both cure up hard, so I'm guessing that they will have about the same---minimal--- effect on tap tone (Q). Plain shellac improves the Q of my LS redwood by about 30%, to my surprise!</p>
<p>I pre-finish parts, which is a trick that I learned while making furniture in Frank's Gryphon building back in the early 1990's. Backs and sides are filled, and cured in a drying cabinet at 90-100° F., as are necks and bridges. I then proceed with French polishing when the guitar is all put together---notes available on request.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Brian</p> The one negative thing I've h…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-01-15:2177249:Comment:1900882020-01-15T12:39:34.016ZDoug Berchhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/DougBerch
<p>The one negative thing I've heard about hide glue as a pore filler is that it can become cloudy under the finish during high humidity. I use and love hide glue but have not tried it as a pore filler myself.</p>
<p>The one negative thing I've heard about hide glue as a pore filler is that it can become cloudy under the finish during high humidity. I use and love hide glue but have not tried it as a pore filler myself.</p> Try it, it may work fine :-)…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-01-14:2177249:Comment:1899922020-01-14T22:10:07.505ZRoger Häggströmhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RogerHaeggstroem
<p>Try it, it may work fine :-) Cyano is in fact a kind of floating plastic, not good in big quantities.</p>
<p>Try it, it may work fine :-) Cyano is in fact a kind of floating plastic, not good in big quantities.</p> Hello Roger,
What attracts me…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-01-14:2177249:Comment:1899882020-01-14T21:21:12.335ZBrian Burnshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianBurns
<p>Hello Roger,</p>
<p>What attracts me to hide glue is that it is complete "burn back" so that I can go back over the pores that need rework, without witness lines.</p>
<p>It's also possible to thin it enough that it can run down into the pores. Trying to force thick viscosity fillers down into the pores has never worked for me. I envision thin coats to begin with, and perhaps thicker coats later---we'll see about that.</p>
<p>There are many issues around pore filling having to do with…</p>
<p>Hello Roger,</p>
<p>What attracts me to hide glue is that it is complete "burn back" so that I can go back over the pores that need rework, without witness lines.</p>
<p>It's also possible to thin it enough that it can run down into the pores. Trying to force thick viscosity fillers down into the pores has never worked for me. I envision thin coats to begin with, and perhaps thicker coats later---we'll see about that.</p>
<p>There are many issues around pore filling having to do with appearances, and for my nylon strung instruments even the effect on tone quality---believe it or not! I once utterly killed a wenge back by filling the pores with an "odorless" cyano.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Brian </p>
<p></p> Filling out is not one thing…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-01-14:2177249:Comment:1899852020-01-14T20:02:42.395ZRoger Häggströmhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RogerHaeggstroem
<p>Filling out is not one thing that HHG does well. It dries into a very thin film. Many layers needed!</p>
<p>Filling out is not one thing that HHG does well. It dries into a very thin film. Many layers needed!</p>