Matching New Sitka to Old Martin Sitka - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T22:54:18Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/matching-new-sitka-to-old-martin-sitka?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A87389&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI was told about the green ma…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-06-18:2177249:Comment:899212012-06-18T04:46:17.841ZEric Steven Johansenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
<p>I was told about the green maple issue by my violin friend, apparently spruce does not have the same issue. I found that using a very diluted solution and giving ample drying time gave me a lot of control over the color. The biggest problem I encountered was trying to keep the dichromate off the adjacent spruce as it caused it to go straight to black, next time I age the wood before I join the pieces together. Live and learn. </p>
<p>I was told about the green maple issue by my violin friend, apparently spruce does not have the same issue. I found that using a very diluted solution and giving ample drying time gave me a lot of control over the color. The biggest problem I encountered was trying to keep the dichromate off the adjacent spruce as it caused it to go straight to black, next time I age the wood before I join the pieces together. Live and learn. </p> Very nice match, Eric!
When D…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-06-17:2177249:Comment:897232012-06-17T21:02:33.252ZGeorge Robertshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GeorgeRoberts
<p>Very nice match, Eric!</p>
<p>When Dichromate is used on maple it produces a very nice oxidized look. Several years later, though, the maple starts to take on a greenish color. I have no idea if the same thing would happen with Sitka. Hope not.</p>
<p>George</p>
<p>Very nice match, Eric!</p>
<p>When Dichromate is used on maple it produces a very nice oxidized look. Several years later, though, the maple starts to take on a greenish color. I have no idea if the same thing would happen with Sitka. Hope not.</p>
<p>George</p> BEAUTIFUL work Eric.
Very imp…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-06-17:2177249:Comment:897202012-06-17T18:34:27.925ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>BEAUTIFUL work Eric.</p>
<p>Very impressive (:</p>
<p>All the best (-:</p>
<p>BEAUTIFUL work Eric.</p>
<p>Very impressive (:</p>
<p>All the best (-:</p> That looks really great! More…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-06-17:2177249:Comment:898062012-06-17T15:01:06.319ZMark Pollockhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarkPollock
<p>That looks really great! More importantly, it looks welcoming. I want to pick this thing up and play it. It's going to provoke typical comments like "Shame about the top, 'cause this is a great guitar otherwise!" Which misses the point, as so often happens, that looks, while important, are not the key to having a blast playing a guitar. (I probably have to make some kind of mandatory Willie Nelson reference here.)</p>
<p>That looks really great! More importantly, it looks welcoming. I want to pick this thing up and play it. It's going to provoke typical comments like "Shame about the top, 'cause this is a great guitar otherwise!" Which misses the point, as so often happens, that looks, while important, are not the key to having a blast playing a guitar. (I probably have to make some kind of mandatory Willie Nelson reference here.)</p> So I thought I should follow…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-06-17:2177249:Comment:897162012-06-17T06:54:57.745ZEric Steven Johansenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
<p>So I thought I should follow up on the '64 0-18 repair I posted about last month. I tried so many tints and stains on this thing without real success. The end result was a light overspray of the entire top proved unavoidable. Rusty, you hit the nail on the head on this one for sure. One thing I did find helpful was Dichromate. It's used by violin guys to age wood and it works great. Mix it with water (carefully as the powder is dangerous) and apply as wash coats with ample drying time…</p>
<p>So I thought I should follow up on the '64 0-18 repair I posted about last month. I tried so many tints and stains on this thing without real success. The end result was a light overspray of the entire top proved unavoidable. Rusty, you hit the nail on the head on this one for sure. One thing I did find helpful was Dichromate. It's used by violin guys to age wood and it works great. Mix it with water (carefully as the powder is dangerous) and apply as wash coats with ample drying time between coats, until the desired aging is achieved. Ended up doing a light amber overspray over the entire top as well as the back and sides. Interesting side note, the first comment from the client was " Why did you overspray it?". It sounded great. Here are a few pictures before strings.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167738066?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167738066?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167738532?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167738532?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167739245?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167739245?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> Everybody here has made good…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-04-29:2177249:Comment:874312012-04-29T16:27:05.089Zlonnie james barberhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/lonniejamesbarber
<p>Everybody here has made good arguments for their points of view.After seeing the beautiful job you did on the repair itself,there is no doubt in my mind that the finish matching will be equally as well done.Good luck to you my friend.Regards Lonnie</p>
<p>Everybody here has made good arguments for their points of view.After seeing the beautiful job you did on the repair itself,there is no doubt in my mind that the finish matching will be equally as well done.Good luck to you my friend.Regards Lonnie</p> If it seems to be taking too…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-04-22:2177249:Comment:873892012-04-22T16:13:40.339ZSTGuitarworkshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/STGuitarworks
<p>If it seems to be taking too many applications consider concentating further by reboiling and adding fresh tea. In the past I have started with 15 tea bags in 2 or 3 cups of boiling water then removing the old bags, microwaving to boil again and add a fresh tea in a similar amount.</p>
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<p>To dry the work piece faster I use a heat gun set on low (being careful, aimed from a few feet away) rather than compressed air as my compressor cycles endlessly...</p>
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<p>If it seems to be taking too many applications consider concentating further by reboiling and adding fresh tea. In the past I have started with 15 tea bags in 2 or 3 cups of boiling water then removing the old bags, microwaving to boil again and add a fresh tea in a similar amount.</p>
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<p>To dry the work piece faster I use a heat gun set on low (being careful, aimed from a few feet away) rather than compressed air as my compressor cycles endlessly...</p>
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<p> </p> Zinnser makes their bullseye…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-04-21:2177249:Comment:871772012-04-21T18:42:41.200ZGary Friedhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GaryFried
<p>Zinnser makes their bullseye shellac in an amber shade.I recently used it touch up 1920's martin around the bridge area as someone had put on a classical style bridge that was way over sized. I think it would match that shade quite closely. </p>
<p>Zinnser makes their bullseye shellac in an amber shade.I recently used it touch up 1920's martin around the bridge area as someone had put on a classical style bridge that was way over sized. I think it would match that shade quite closely. </p> I got a flier in the mail yes…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-04-21:2177249:Comment:871762012-04-21T12:18:47.793ZGeorge Robertshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GeorgeRoberts
<p>I got a flier in the mail yesterday from International Violin. Their 2 oz. bottles of oil varnish are on sale.</p>
<p>George</p>
<p>I got a flier in the mail yesterday from International Violin. Their 2 oz. bottles of oil varnish are on sale.</p>
<p>George</p> So here we are a few days lat…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-04-21:2177249:Comment:871722012-04-21T03:36:22.929ZEric Steven Johansenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
<p>So here we are a few days latter with the sun tan results. Started with Taylor Swift and was hoping for John Boehner and still have Taylor Swift. Can't wait that long, so I'm experimenting with the tea, black with no sugar, and it shows promise. It too is slow but very controllable, although I'm considering coffee. The question now is what kind ? I love Kona for the taste, but darn it if Columbian doesn't smell better.</p>
<p>So here we are a few days latter with the sun tan results. Started with Taylor Swift and was hoping for John Boehner and still have Taylor Swift. Can't wait that long, so I'm experimenting with the tea, black with no sugar, and it shows promise. It too is slow but very controllable, although I'm considering coffee. The question now is what kind ? I love Kona for the taste, but darn it if Columbian doesn't smell better.</p>