Modern Ibanez Glue - I'm a bit stuck - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T05:57:55Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/modern-ibanez-glue-im-a-bit?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A4762&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGlyn, if the importer expects…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-11-02:2177249:Comment:47622008-11-02T02:15:29.323ZGreg Mirkenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GregMirken
Glyn, if the importer expects you to be able to reset a neck on one of these, ask them to find out what glue was used and what the joint is like. The neck and body must have been finished separately, right? Older Ibanez guitars looked like the neck was assembled before finishing.<br />
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Seems like this would be a 'second' at best- hard to see how this makes much economic sense from their viewpoint.
Glyn, if the importer expects you to be able to reset a neck on one of these, ask them to find out what glue was used and what the joint is like. The neck and body must have been finished separately, right? Older Ibanez guitars looked like the neck was assembled before finishing.<br />
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Seems like this would be a 'second' at best- hard to see how this makes much economic sense from their viewpoint. Yea, you're right. I'll call…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-11-01:2177249:Comment:47612008-11-01T20:53:53.820ZMrGlynhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MrGlyn
Yea, you're right. I'll call them on Monday.<br />
There's isn't a customer yet - their tech spotted it and sent it to me. I've got enough work on at the moment without taking on jobs like this. Shame in a way cos they've got 2 of them.($)<br />
These are expensive guitars but the build quality is shocking - they're selling them purely on Steve Vai's name. I expect more from Ibanez.<br />
Hey thanks for talking sense, I think I was getting bogged down with one trail of thought instead of standing back and seeing…
Yea, you're right. I'll call them on Monday.<br />
There's isn't a customer yet - their tech spotted it and sent it to me. I've got enough work on at the moment without taking on jobs like this. Shame in a way cos they've got 2 of them.($)<br />
These are expensive guitars but the build quality is shocking - they're selling them purely on Steve Vai's name. I expect more from Ibanez.<br />
Hey thanks for talking sense, I think I was getting bogged down with one trail of thought instead of standing back and seeing the whole picture. That's the problem with working alone. Viva la Forum !<br />
Glyn Brand new, and needs a reset?…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-11-01:2177249:Comment:47462008-11-01T14:56:47.944ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
Brand new, and needs a reset? Screw it, customer should get a replacement.
Brand new, and needs a reset? Screw it, customer should get a replacement. Hi Jeffery,
yes I'm familiar…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-11-01:2177249:Comment:47402008-11-01T06:14:49.451ZMrGlynhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MrGlyn
Hi Jeffery,<br />
yes I'm familiar with old Yamahas and this one's less co-operative than even one of those. Unfortunately the bolt-on method is not an option cos the guitar is brand new, straight from the importer so I can't leave it with different spec.<br />
You know I'm thinking about just telling them it can't be done and have them get another from Ibanez.<br />
Its a shame but some ya win....<br />
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I've slipped a few backs - maybe 5 or 10 and appart from a few tricky binding issues its worked out great every…
Hi Jeffery,<br />
yes I'm familiar with old Yamahas and this one's less co-operative than even one of those. Unfortunately the bolt-on method is not an option cos the guitar is brand new, straight from the importer so I can't leave it with different spec.<br />
You know I'm thinking about just telling them it can't be done and have them get another from Ibanez.<br />
Its a shame but some ya win....<br />
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I've slipped a few backs - maybe 5 or 10 and appart from a few tricky binding issues its worked out great every time. I prefere the trad neck re-set these days.<br />
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Cheers for you help<br />
Glyn I think you're looking at a s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-11-01:2177249:Comment:47272008-11-01T01:40:00.614ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
I think you're looking at a saw-off/convert to bolt-on, job. You'll have to detach the fingerboard extension by whatever means. There's a job on Frets.com that shows Frank doing one.<br />
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I wouldn't slip a back again, ever.<br />
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You've just entered the world of Asian Mystery Joints--as if old Yamahas weren't trouble enough! It's very likely that it's epoxied, too. I've actually had to do quite a few saw-off resets lately; I use a Fein Multimaster and a very thin Japanese puulsaw--.008--from the Japan…
I think you're looking at a saw-off/convert to bolt-on, job. You'll have to detach the fingerboard extension by whatever means. There's a job on Frets.com that shows Frank doing one.<br />
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I wouldn't slip a back again, ever.<br />
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You've just entered the world of Asian Mystery Joints--as if old Yamahas weren't trouble enough! It's very likely that it's epoxied, too. I've actually had to do quite a few saw-off resets lately; I use a Fein Multimaster and a very thin Japanese puulsaw--.008--from the Japan Woodworker, which is actually kind of over/underkill.<br />
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If you want to contact me offline, feel free. Oh yea and I didn't mention t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-10-31:2177249:Comment:46722008-10-31T05:19:31.826ZMrGlynhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MrGlyn
Oh yea and I didn't mention the binding, fancy mother-of-plastic inlays, a cutaway and very thin matt finish.<br />
I'm thinking I might have to go down the route of peeling the binding back, cutting off the end of the board and exposing the joint. But I still might not be able to break the glue joint - hmmm<br />
By 'slip joint' do you mean seperating the block from the back etc.? But if its the same glue...<br />
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Any more takers?<br />
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Glyn
Oh yea and I didn't mention the binding, fancy mother-of-plastic inlays, a cutaway and very thin matt finish.<br />
I'm thinking I might have to go down the route of peeling the binding back, cutting off the end of the board and exposing the joint. But I still might not be able to break the glue joint - hmmm<br />
By 'slip joint' do you mean seperating the block from the back etc.? But if its the same glue...<br />
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Any more takers?<br />
<br />
Glyn Welcome to the world of what…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2008-10-31:2177249:Comment:46672008-10-31T04:58:04.817Zthefishinmusicianhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/thefishinmusician
Welcome to the world of what did they use to glue things together..You are lucky to at least not to have spent a week working with your arm buried in a sound hole trying to remove a bridge plate...I wish I could give you some clues on where to go from here.Perhaps.,,,,,protecting the guitar top with a thin metal...AND WATCH YOUR PROGRESS!!!...,,,You could ,with a fine Japanese saw,,,saw the extension offf,but then how do you remove the neck,which probably is the same glue???..It could be a…
Welcome to the world of what did they use to glue things together..You are lucky to at least not to have spent a week working with your arm buried in a sound hole trying to remove a bridge plate...I wish I could give you some clues on where to go from here.Perhaps.,,,,,protecting the guitar top with a thin metal...AND WATCH YOUR PROGRESS!!!...,,,You could ,with a fine Japanese saw,,,saw the extension offf,but then how do you remove the neck,which probably is the same glue???..It could be a canidate for the dreaded "slip joint "repair from the dark and sex filled 60"s...