Music Man Sabre 1 Electric Guitar problem - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T15:53:43Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/music-man-sabre-1-electric-guitar-problem?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A135734&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for the help - I was j…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-02:2177249:Comment:1357342014-08-02T21:12:09.791ZBob Hensleyhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BobHensley209
<p>Thanks for the help - I was just wondering if the phase switch was not laying the same as the drawing. Fortunately, it was.</p>
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<p>I took off the purple wire and tried the pickups - the 3 way switch worked correctly without the preamp. So I wired the purple wire back into the circuit - low and behold, the pickups work as they should!</p>
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<p>At first I thought it was a voodoo repair (you know, you take it apart and find nothing then put it back together and now it works) -…</p>
<p>Thanks for the help - I was just wondering if the phase switch was not laying the same as the drawing. Fortunately, it was.</p>
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<p>I took off the purple wire and tried the pickups - the 3 way switch worked correctly without the preamp. So I wired the purple wire back into the circuit - low and behold, the pickups work as they should!</p>
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<p>At first I thought it was a voodoo repair (you know, you take it apart and find nothing then put it back together and now it works) - then I discovered the problem. I am ashamed to say it, but here is is for anyone else who works on one of these - if the phase switch is engaged, both pickups are hot in all positions! when it is not, they work as they should. Whoda thunk it?</p>
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<p>Many thanks to the folks who made suggestions - I am going back to my acoustic repairs!</p> . It would be possible to wi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-02:2177249:Comment:1357162014-08-02T07:51:38.043ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
<p> . It would be possible to wire the switch wrongly if you had it rotated 90deg. To understand the phase switch , the hot and cold wires go to the middle contacts , and in one pos'n they connect hot to 3 way and cold to ground , and in other pos'n they get hot to ground and cold to 3 way .</p>
<p>In this setup it looks like the lead pickup gets added in ,in the out-of phase pos'n via the yellow wire so you get out-of-phase sound in rhythm and middle pos'n ? Sorry this is not helping ! The…</p>
<p> . It would be possible to wire the switch wrongly if you had it rotated 90deg. To understand the phase switch , the hot and cold wires go to the middle contacts , and in one pos'n they connect hot to 3 way and cold to ground , and in other pos'n they get hot to ground and cold to 3 way .</p>
<p>In this setup it looks like the lead pickup gets added in ,in the out-of phase pos'n via the yellow wire so you get out-of-phase sound in rhythm and middle pos'n ? Sorry this is not helping ! The purple wire from the switch to preamp is the output of 3 way , Id cut it and use alligator leads to hook up a lead to an amp , one from black link on 3 way to tip of lead , and one from ground to sleeve of lead , see what you get in 3 pos'ns .</p> It's a strange setup, it look…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-02:2177249:Comment:1359022014-08-02T00:22:12.940ZJeff Highlandhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffHighland
<p>It's a strange setup, it looks like the phase switch also switches on both pickups when in the out of phase position</p>
<p>It's a strange setup, it looks like the phase switch also switches on both pickups when in the out of phase position</p> See attached photos. 2 of the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-01:2177249:Comment:1356212014-08-01T22:04:25.207ZBob Hensleyhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BobHensley209
<p>See attached photos. 2 of these are of the actual wiring, one is the template for how this is supposed to be wired.</p>
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<p>My confusion seems to be with the phase switch - I guess I don't understand how all those lugs are supposed to work with each other. When I put a meter to it, they all seem to be coming back to the 3 way switch thru the white wire on one side and the yellow on the other irregardless of the phase switch position.</p>
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<p>See attached photos. 2 of these are of the actual wiring, one is the template for how this is supposed to be wired.</p>
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<p>My confusion seems to be with the phase switch - I guess I don't understand how all those lugs are supposed to work with each other. When I put a meter to it, they all seem to be coming back to the 3 way switch thru the white wire on one side and the yellow on the other irregardless of the phase switch position.</p>
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<p></p> It sounds like the selector s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-01:2177249:Comment:1358912014-08-01T09:21:05.207ZJoshua Levin-Epsteinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoshuaLevinEpstein
<p>It sounds like the selector switch is either wired incorrectly or defective. I believe this is a typical Fender style 3 position switch so it is easy to visually follow the signal path. The pickups themselves are passive so I would wire the output from the switch (which would feed the preamp) to an amp to make it easier to see what's what.</p>
<p>It sounds like the selector switch is either wired incorrectly or defective. I believe this is a typical Fender style 3 position switch so it is easy to visually follow the signal path. The pickups themselves are passive so I would wire the output from the switch (which would feed the preamp) to an amp to make it easier to see what's what.</p> We need some pics and diagram…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-08-01:2177249:Comment:1358882014-08-01T08:10:04.109ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
<p>We need some pics and diagrams , flying blind .</p>
<p>We need some pics and diagrams , flying blind .</p>