Nut Size - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T08:34:03Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/nut-size?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A14595&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Bob, I've the necessar…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-06:2177249:Comment:146502009-06-06T14:45:54.468Zbrumshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/brums
Thanks Bob, I've the necessary tools to make a nut.<br />
I repaired the original but I will make another.<br />
My probles is :<br />
<br />
<u>Strings tension doesn’t satisfy me ………. That guitar shoud to have a more powerfull sound on the bass notes ……….<br />
- Should I to use 13/56 strings gauge on that Dread Guitar ?????<br />
I worry to stress the top<br />
- Should I to raise saddle protrusion at 0.19 0r 0.21 (making a new saddle) and lower relief to compensate strings action ???<br />
<br />
- I’ve on low E string intonation 12th harmonic…</u>
Thanks Bob, I've the necessary tools to make a nut.<br />
I repaired the original but I will make another.<br />
My probles is :<br />
<br />
<u>Strings tension doesn’t satisfy me ………. That guitar shoud to have a more powerfull sound on the bass notes ……….<br />
- Should I to use 13/56 strings gauge on that Dread Guitar ?????<br />
I worry to stress the top<br />
- Should I to raise saddle protrusion at 0.19 0r 0.21 (making a new saddle) and lower relief to compensate strings action ???<br />
<br />
- I’ve on low E string intonation 12th harmonic flat if compared with 12th fretted note and sharp on 3rd 5th fretted if compared with open note……<br />
Thanks</u> In fact, I've bought blank nu…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-06:2177249:Comment:146492009-06-06T14:40:27.468Zbrumshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/brums
In fact, I've bought blank nuts without slots, I will make proper slots and all the necessary adjustments for my guitar.<br />
My problem is about intonation (E) and strings tension (strings gauge/break angle/action).
In fact, I've bought blank nuts without slots, I will make proper slots and all the necessary adjustments for my guitar.<br />
My problem is about intonation (E) and strings tension (strings gauge/break angle/action). I have never bought a nut bla…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-06:2177249:Comment:146442009-06-06T12:31:11.588ZBob Gaddishttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BobGaddis
I have never bought a nut blank that fit perfectly, right out of the box. You have to make it fit the slot. Don't enlarge the slot in the neck. Make the nut right, get the spacing right. I use the Stew-Mac spacing ruler. Once the spacing is right, then you use feeler gauges to set the depth of the slot and cut each one with the appropriate-size file. I like to have the unwound strings set fully into the nut, and the wound strings set 1/2 the thickness of the string, There should be no nut…
I have never bought a nut blank that fit perfectly, right out of the box. You have to make it fit the slot. Don't enlarge the slot in the neck. Make the nut right, get the spacing right. I use the Stew-Mac spacing ruler. Once the spacing is right, then you use feeler gauges to set the depth of the slot and cut each one with the appropriate-size file. I like to have the unwound strings set fully into the nut, and the wound strings set 1/2 the thickness of the string, There should be no nut material above the strings. Once you have the nut right, if you still have intonation problems, look at neck relief , neck angle and bridge saddle location. In my experience nuts cannot…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-06:2177249:Comment:146432009-06-06T11:32:33.016ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
In my experience nuts cannot be bought as a stock item , you need to work on them to suit your guitar . So you are better off to buy a bone or graphtech blank and make the nut , but as I say it's not easy , thats why we have luthiers .As for the sound of your guitar , it looks like the setup is ok , have you got someone to play it to you , sitting in front ? that's where you hear it , not in the driver's seat .Len
In my experience nuts cannot be bought as a stock item , you need to work on them to suit your guitar . So you are better off to buy a bone or graphtech blank and make the nut , but as I say it's not easy , thats why we have luthiers .As for the sound of your guitar , it looks like the setup is ok , have you got someone to play it to you , sitting in front ? that's where you hear it , not in the driver's seat .Len Well Len, tanks for your inte…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-05:2177249:Comment:145972009-06-05T09:34:51.643Zbrumshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/brums
Well Len, tanks for your interest to my discussion,<br />
I asked that because I bought one nut (Bob Colosi) and another<br />
(Stewart MacDonald) and both have a different top thickness.<br />
The MacDonald has a narrower profile than the original and Bob Colosi has a thicker one<br />
(but it needs to be shaved off).<br />
Well I’m making set up on my Guitar (Gibson J45 MC Mahogany) it had a B and E string slots too low adjusted by me with a Bone/Soda/CianoGlue mixture (but I don’t like it).<br />
Guitar has now these…
Well Len, tanks for your interest to my discussion,<br />
I asked that because I bought one nut (Bob Colosi) and another<br />
(Stewart MacDonald) and both have a different top thickness.<br />
The MacDonald has a narrower profile than the original and Bob Colosi has a thicker one<br />
(but it needs to be shaved off).<br />
Well I’m making set up on my Guitar (Gibson J45 MC Mahogany) it had a B and E string slots too low adjusted by me with a Bone/Soda/CianoGlue mixture (but I don’t like it).<br />
Guitar has now these measurements :<br />
- Nut Clearance at 1st 0.13 / 0.22<br />
- Relief at 7th < 0.008<br />
- Action at 12th < 7/64 and < 5/64 on high side<br />
- Saddle protrusion on bridge at higher point 0.182<br />
- Strings Gauge 12/53<br />
But strings tension doesn’t satisfy me ………. That guitar shoud to have a more powerfull sound on the bass notes ……….<br />
- Should I to use 13/56 strings gauge on that Dread Guitar ?????<br />
I worry to stress the top<br />
- Should I to raise saddle protrusion at 0.19 0r 0.21 (making a new saddle) and lower relief to compensate strings action ???<br />
<br />
Another difficult I’ve on low E string intonation 12th harmonic flat if compared with 12th fretted note and sharp on 3rd 5th fretted if compared with open note……<br />
Thanks<br />
bruno<br />
<br />
I’m sorry for my lost language well it doesn't matter much a…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-05:2177249:Comment:145952009-06-05T08:22:18.949ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
well it doesn't matter much about the bottom thickness , but as I say make it to match what was there originally . The top of the nut is usually thin with a light slot for the strings .For sound quality it is much more important to get the string height correct and the slot width right , than to worry about the thickness . I think a good nut is the most demanding part of luthiery, very easy to botch it ! Len
well it doesn't matter much about the bottom thickness , but as I say make it to match what was there originally . The top of the nut is usually thin with a light slot for the strings .For sound quality it is much more important to get the string height correct and the slot width right , than to worry about the thickness . I think a good nut is the most demanding part of luthiery, very easy to botch it ! Len Why bother, if the nut is alr…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-04:2177249:Comment:145882009-06-04T18:25:28.577ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
Why bother, if the nut is alright now?
Why bother, if the nut is alright now? I mean that thickness........…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-04:2177249:Comment:145822009-06-04T13:19:56.937Zbrumshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/brums
I mean that thickness...........see photo
I mean that thickness...........see photo If it is an acoustic guitar t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-04:2177249:Comment:145782009-06-04T12:50:59.664ZLen Biglinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
If it is an acoustic guitar then the nut usually sits at the end of the fretboard , and you can make it to a thickness that suits the peghead and fretboard, and just a little higher than the frets. If its an electric guitar the nut may sit in a slot and this dictates the width .If you have a zero-fret then the nut is only spacing the strings apart and the slots may be deeper .Look at the Frets.com website you will find everything there .good luck , you need to be accurate.Len
If it is an acoustic guitar then the nut usually sits at the end of the fretboard , and you can make it to a thickness that suits the peghead and fretboard, and just a little higher than the frets. If its an electric guitar the nut may sit in a slot and this dictates the width .If you have a zero-fret then the nut is only spacing the strings apart and the slots may be deeper .Look at the Frets.com website you will find everything there .good luck , you need to be accurate.Len The nut of my guitar has a 0.…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2009-06-04:2177249:Comment:145772009-06-04T08:21:54.772Zbrumshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/brums
The nut of my guitar has a 0.21 thickness,<br />
May I make a new nut with more thickness ?<br />
Does It will affect sound ?
The nut of my guitar has a 0.21 thickness,<br />
May I make a new nut with more thickness ?<br />
Does It will affect sound ?