Pelham Blue - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T16:46:06Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/pelham-blue?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A136652&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPaul, thank you for your comm…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-09-07:2177249:Comment:1366522014-09-07T17:45:43.083ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>Paul, thank you for your comment. I'm glad you like it. The info you posted was essential for this job. Thanks!</p>
<p>Paul, thank you for your comment. I'm glad you like it. The info you posted was essential for this job. Thanks!</p> Mario,
You NAILED that color…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-09-06:2177249:Comment:1369152014-09-06T04:44:38.461ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Mario,</p>
<p>You NAILED that color w/the aging. Very well done.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>Mario,</p>
<p>You NAILED that color w/the aging. Very well done.</p>
<p>Paul</p> Here it is. Just finished and…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-09-03:2177249:Comment:1366232014-09-03T04:14:37.291ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>Here it is. Just finished and polished. Thanks for your help guys it was really useful. Hope you like it. I leave you a small schedule.</p>
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<p>Sealing coat 1 pound cut shellac. 4 coats </p>
<p>Scuff sand 220</p>
<p>Waterbase natural grain filler</p>
<p>Sand 320</p>
<p>4 sealer coats 1 pund cut shellac</p>
<p>Sand flat 320</p>
<p>Chromacryl Automotive paint (White) 2 coats</p>
<p>Chromacryl Automotive paint (pelham blue) 2 coats</p>
<p>6 hours drytime. </p>
<p>2 amber shade coats…</p>
<p>Here it is. Just finished and polished. Thanks for your help guys it was really useful. Hope you like it. I leave you a small schedule.</p>
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<p>Sealing coat 1 pound cut shellac. 4 coats </p>
<p>Scuff sand 220</p>
<p>Waterbase natural grain filler</p>
<p>Sand 320</p>
<p>4 sealer coats 1 pund cut shellac</p>
<p>Sand flat 320</p>
<p>Chromacryl Automotive paint (White) 2 coats</p>
<p>Chromacryl Automotive paint (pelham blue) 2 coats</p>
<p>6 hours drytime. </p>
<p>2 amber shade coats (clear and color tone vintage amber)</p>
<p>24 coats 20% solids clear laquer thinned 1:1</p>
<p>Wet sand</p>
<p>Buff</p>
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<p>If you have any questions on the proyect feel free to ask. </p>
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<p></p> Thanks Paul,
I decided i'm g…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-02:2177249:Comment:1335212014-06-02T19:20:01.658ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>Thanks Paul,</p>
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<p>I decided i'm going to use what's supposed to be available. I couldn't find any metal powder so I went to dupont this morning. They have a huge book with lots of different blues that look like pelham. I couldn't decide. Those codes you posted are going to be very useful. I'm going back to dupont and also sherwin williams and see what happens. I'll keep you posted :)</p>
<p>Thanks Paul,</p>
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<p>I decided i'm going to use what's supposed to be available. I couldn't find any metal powder so I went to dupont this morning. They have a huge book with lots of different blues that look like pelham. I couldn't decide. Those codes you posted are going to be very useful. I'm going back to dupont and also sherwin williams and see what happens. I'll keep you posted :)</p> That burgundy mist looks awes…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-02:2177249:Comment:1335202014-06-02T19:13:46.347ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>That burgundy mist looks awesome! I particularly prefer smaller flake. I once hat to refret (or was it fretdress?) a strat with that gold metal flake. Really cool.</p>
<p>That burgundy mist looks awesome! I particularly prefer smaller flake. I once hat to refret (or was it fretdress?) a strat with that gold metal flake. Really cool.</p> Great info, Paul!
I'd bet my…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-02:2177249:Comment:1336202014-06-02T02:45:21.194ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Great info, Paul!</p>
<p>I'd bet my eye teeth that silver paints are made with very fine aluminum powders. <br></br>There are also quite a few newer Fenders with metal flake finishes.</p>
<p>1966 Burgundy Mist Metallic:</p>
<p><img alt="" height="469" id="viEnlargeImgLayer_img_ctr" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQwWDEwMDA=/$T2eC16R,%21zoE9s5ne2UUBQKT7nKfbg%7E%7E60_57.JPG" width="634"></img></p>
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<p>1992 Gold Metalflake:…</p>
<p><img alt="1992 Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Plus Ultra Gold Metal Flake 100 Mint Cond | eBay" class="pinImage" src="http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/736x/dc/1a/20/dc1a2048357f5f5412704952481d2737.jpg" style="height: 500px; width: 375px; margin: 0 auto; padding: 40px 0px;"></img></p>
<p>Great info, Paul!</p>
<p>I'd bet my eye teeth that silver paints are made with very fine aluminum powders. <br/>There are also quite a few newer Fenders with metal flake finishes.</p>
<p>1966 Burgundy Mist Metallic:</p>
<p><img id="viEnlargeImgLayer_img_ctr" alt="" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQwWDEwMDA=/$T2eC16R,%21zoE9s5ne2UUBQKT7nKfbg%7E%7E60_57.JPG" height="469" width="634"/></p>
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<p>1992 Gold Metalflake:</p>
<p><img src="http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/736x/dc/1a/20/dc1a2048357f5f5412704952481d2737.jpg" class="pinImage" style="height: 500px; width: 375px; margin: 0 auto; padding: 40px 0px;" alt="1992 Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster Plus Ultra Gold Metal Flake 100 Mint Cond | eBay"/></p> Info from: http://home.provi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-01:2177249:Comment:1331722014-06-01T21:06:53.388ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Info from: <a href="http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibsonc.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibsonc.html</a>, regarding Gibson's Pelham Blue:</p>
<p>"The original DuPont color (4038L) is no longer available.</p>
<p>For example with Pelhem Blue, the color "Astra Blue Mica" as used on 1992 Iszuz vehicles is an excellent match, Sherwin Williams color code 718/B204 and Dupont ChromaBase H-9623K. Ernie from the Gibson Custom Shop claims that after extensive…</p>
<p>Info from: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibsonc.html" target="_blank">http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibsonc.html</a>, regarding Gibson's Pelham Blue:</p>
<p>"The original DuPont color (4038L) is no longer available.</p>
<p>For example with Pelhem Blue, the color "Astra Blue Mica" as used on 1992 Iszuz vehicles is an excellent match, Sherwin Williams color code 718/B204 and Dupont ChromaBase H-9623K. Ernie from the Gibson Custom Shop claims that after extensive research by Gibson this is the equivalent to the original Pelham Blue."</p>
<p>If you're working from scratch, I'd try a white primer, a base coat of silver, a transparent coat(s) of blue to the desired shade and then clear coats. I don't believe the addition of metallic powders is necessary. The silver base coat provides the 'sparkle'. Fender never used metal powders in their 'candy' finishes. They used either a silver or gold base coat to add sparkle under transparent color coats.</p>
<p>I understand that you may have problems with USA suppliers being able to ship paints to you in Mexico.</p>
<p>Hopefully, local pro auto paint suppliers can be helpful in getting these specific colors.</p>
<p>Our great friend, Rusty Vance, has the Gibson Finishing Schedules. If he see this, I'm sure he'll give you the exact info you need and/or correct any errors I may have stated.</p>
<p>Best of luck, Mario :)</p> Yeah, is a great book. Pelham…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-01:2177249:Comment:1335122014-06-01T17:51:15.664ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>Yeah, is a great book. Pelham is a little different thou. But i think i can use the stain color density guide for color. Thanks Paul. </p>
<p>Yeah, is a great book. Pelham is a little different thou. But i think i can use the stain color density guide for color. Thanks Paul. </p> That chart's awesome, i was l…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-01:2177249:Comment:1335092014-06-01T17:48:45.426ZMario Cardenashttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarioGabinhoCardenasVega
<p>That chart's awesome, i was looking for that. Thanks</p>
<p>That chart's awesome, i was looking for that. Thanks</p> Here's a link to the Crescent…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-06-01:2177249:Comment:1331712014-06-01T15:04:46.216ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Here's a link to the Crescent color chart. Notice that particle size varies.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/f3n7ckz3xtsc0pn/Crescent%20Bronzing%20Powders%20Colorcard.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/f3n7ckz3xtsc0pn/Crescent%20Bronzing%20Powders%20Colorcard.pdf</a></p>
<p>You might use, say, #762 followed by a transparent blue or use blue #775 followed by a clear coat. Make sure you match flake size against an actual guitar or a good closeup photo.</p>
<p>I'd test on…</p>
<p>Here's a link to the Crescent color chart. Notice that particle size varies.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/f3n7ckz3xtsc0pn/Crescent%20Bronzing%20Powders%20Colorcard.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/f3n7ckz3xtsc0pn/Crescent%20Bronzing%20Powders%20Colorcard.pdf</a></p>
<p>You might use, say, #762 followed by a transparent blue or use blue #775 followed by a clear coat. Make sure you match flake size against an actual guitar or a good closeup photo.</p>
<p>I'd test on scrap without skipping steps however you do it.</p>
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