Permanently sealed Grover tuners.... - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T11:52:17Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/permanently-sealed-grover-tuners?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A118807&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSure did, Kerry... a neat tri…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-18:2177249:Comment:1188072013-09-18T17:36:36.222ZMike Kolbhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>Sure did, Kerry... a neat trick to keep in mind. Thanks for that:)</p>
<p>Sure did, Kerry... a neat trick to keep in mind. Thanks for that:)</p> I'm so glad that the hair dry…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-18:2177249:Comment:1185222013-09-18T08:54:44.099ZKerry Krishnahttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p>I'm so glad that the hair dryer thing worked for you.</p>
<p>I'm so glad that the hair dryer thing worked for you.</p> @Eric..
I sent you a PM. Chec…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-17:2177249:Comment:1186862013-09-17T17:52:36.125ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>@Eric..</p>
<p>I sent you a PM. Check your inbox :)</p>
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<p>@Eric..</p>
<p>I sent you a PM. Check your inbox :)</p>
<p></p> Well maybe like Paul says the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-17:2177249:Comment:1185012013-09-17T15:03:23.854ZWilliam F.Edenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/WilliamFEden
<p>Well maybe like Paul says they don't treat every one the same.But I had a set of Sta-Tites that one of them were giving me a hard time so I E mailed Grover and told them that I was a builder and that I had bought three sets and I was having trouble with one of the tuners on the one set.They E-mailed me back and said to send all three sets back and they would send me three new sets as they had a better stile tuner now. Well I had already installed the other two sets in other guitars so I…</p>
<p>Well maybe like Paul says they don't treat every one the same.But I had a set of Sta-Tites that one of them were giving me a hard time so I E mailed Grover and told them that I was a builder and that I had bought three sets and I was having trouble with one of the tuners on the one set.They E-mailed me back and said to send all three sets back and they would send me three new sets as they had a better stile tuner now. Well I had already installed the other two sets in other guitars so I could not send them back.So I just sent the one tuner and they sent me a whole set.That was my Exp. anyway thanks Bill................</p> As a follow-up to the whole d…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-17:2177249:Comment:1184632013-09-17T03:39:00.744ZMike Kolbhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>As a follow-up to the whole dilemma, I used the "hair dryer" trick to heat the grease and it worked. The guitar's back home and the customer's happy, so I never had to contact Grover to see about a warranted replacement.</p>
<p>In any event, the discussion itself was an education and an eye-opener. Thanks for all the input!</p>
<p>As a follow-up to the whole dilemma, I used the "hair dryer" trick to heat the grease and it worked. The guitar's back home and the customer's happy, so I never had to contact Grover to see about a warranted replacement.</p>
<p>In any event, the discussion itself was an education and an eye-opener. Thanks for all the input!</p> I too am a big fan of the 18:…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-17:2177249:Comment:1181762013-09-17T03:13:43.005ZEric Steven Johansenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
<p>I too am a big fan of the 18:1 Stay-Tites. Classic looks, smooth action, easy to maintain, and consistent high quality product. Oh and though not cheap they do keep within budget.</p>
<p>I too am a big fan of the 18:1 Stay-Tites. Classic looks, smooth action, easy to maintain, and consistent high quality product. Oh and though not cheap they do keep within budget.</p> Keith,
Most of us on the foru…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-16:2177249:Comment:1183552013-09-16T23:52:26.117ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Keith,</p>
<p>Most of us on the forum have a shop of some sort and we represent ourselves as qualified practitioners. Given that information, I've always had 100% backing from Grover...they even replaced a late 50's Gold Rotomatic for me several years ago w/a NOS machine.!!! They've been consistently gracious.</p>
<p>You may not have a shop (even if it's only a bench in the utility room), therefore they wanted you to have a pro verify the need for a replacement. If that's not the case, maybe…</p>
<p>Keith,</p>
<p>Most of us on the forum have a shop of some sort and we represent ourselves as qualified practitioners. Given that information, I've always had 100% backing from Grover...they even replaced a late 50's Gold Rotomatic for me several years ago w/a NOS machine.!!! They've been consistently gracious.</p>
<p>You may not have a shop (even if it's only a bench in the utility room), therefore they wanted you to have a pro verify the need for a replacement. If that's not the case, maybe you just called on a bad day.</p>
<p>Mike K: re: the Philips tension screws..yes, the USA made machines used slot screws and the Asain ones use Philips. Grover has been using off shore manufacturing for a couple decades now. As far as I know, all of their tuners are made overseas. BTW: I'm in the camp that, through experience, have come to the conclusion that the Asain made machines are actually more reliable & smoother than their obsolete USA made counterparts.I have no QC concerns about them.</p>
<p>Also, the cast machines seem soooooo heavy that nowadays that I'm converting (as I can afford to) all my 3x3 instruments w/ cast machines to 18:1 Sta-Tites (because only my customers can afford Waverly's ;). They're fab tuners for the price.</p>
<p>Have a great day, guys :)</p> RE: Mr. Eden's suggestion abo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-16:2177249:Comment:1182492013-09-16T19:44:52.032Zkeith angushttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/keithangus
<p>RE: Mr. Eden's suggestion about the 'Grover' so-called guarantee......I contacted the company last year about a set of' 'Sta-Tites' that I bought that wouldn't and was told by E/M to take my guitar to a qualified repair person and to get them to contact Grover; a 150mi. trip for me. Needless to say, I will never purchase any new Grover tuners again.</p>
<p>RE: Mr. Eden's suggestion about the 'Grover' so-called guarantee......I contacted the company last year about a set of' 'Sta-Tites' that I bought that wouldn't and was told by E/M to take my guitar to a qualified repair person and to get them to contact Grover; a 150mi. trip for me. Needless to say, I will never purchase any new Grover tuners again.</p> Mike, before I sent it off,…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-08:2177249:Comment:1176192013-09-08T16:48:29.767ZKerry Krishnahttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p>Mike, before I sent it off, I would put a hair dryer on high blowing on it for about ten mins, with occasional turning of the knob to get all the worm gear. The heat may melt some of the grease, and your problem may be solved.</p>
<p>I have done this before and it has worked.</p>
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<p>And you really should try Dustin's suggestion above. I have also used this method, and the dome'd back just pops right off, and snaps right back in, with no indication that it was ever off... </p>
<p>Mike, before I sent it off, I would put a hair dryer on high blowing on it for about ten mins, with occasional turning of the knob to get all the worm gear. The heat may melt some of the grease, and your problem may be solved.</p>
<p>I have done this before and it has worked.</p>
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<p>And you really should try Dustin's suggestion above. I have also used this method, and the dome'd back just pops right off, and snaps right back in, with no indication that it was ever off... </p> Seeing as though it's a custo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-08:2177249:Comment:1174392013-09-08T00:10:55.724ZMike Kolbhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>Seeing as though it's a customers' tuner, maybe I'll forego the experimentation process this time and go directly to the Grover guarantee. I can put a "loaner" from the parts box on for him while we wait for Grover do a swap-out.</p>
<p>When my "loaner" comes back, into the innards we go... just to see how that shaft extracts and the dome wants to come loose. </p>
<p>Thanks for the good info... always a never-ending learning process :)</p>
<p>Seeing as though it's a customers' tuner, maybe I'll forego the experimentation process this time and go directly to the Grover guarantee. I can put a "loaner" from the parts box on for him while we wait for Grover do a swap-out.</p>
<p>When my "loaner" comes back, into the innards we go... just to see how that shaft extracts and the dome wants to come loose. </p>
<p>Thanks for the good info... always a never-ending learning process :)</p>