Pore-filling around bridge mask? - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T23:33:24Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/pore-filling-around-bridge-mask?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A132104&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you so much.tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-07:2177249:Comment:1320612014-05-07T21:17:41.378Zjoeguamhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/joeguam
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much. You don't need to cut the fri…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-07:2177249:Comment:1322102014-05-07T14:38:22.688Zsylvanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/sylvan
<p>You don't need to cut the frisket 1mm inside the bridge line. It lays very flat and protective; just use your cut around the bridge line. It will work fine!</p>
<p>All other procedures sound fine.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>You don't need to cut the frisket 1mm inside the bridge line. It lays very flat and protective; just use your cut around the bridge line. It will work fine!</p>
<p>All other procedures sound fine.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p> Thanks so much for your reply…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-07:2177249:Comment:1322042014-05-07T01:03:57.366Zjoeguamhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/joeguam
<p>Thanks so much for your reply Paul, I really appreciate it as my confidence is restored again in TruOil. :)</p>
<p>I've only posted a couple of times here on Frets.net, but I've read many threads and posts. I do remember your name specifically from my previous threads and other posts. Once again, I respect your knowledge and thank you very much for taking the time to provide some info to help me.</p>
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<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your reply Paul, I really appreciate it as my confidence is restored again in TruOil. :)</p>
<p>I've only posted a couple of times here on Frets.net, but I've read many threads and posts. I do remember your name specifically from my previous threads and other posts. Once again, I respect your knowledge and thank you very much for taking the time to provide some info to help me.</p>
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<p>Cheers!</p> Thanks Joe :)
Your answer mak…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-07:2177249:Comment:1320412014-05-07T01:00:11.682ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Thanks Joe :)</p>
<p>Your answer makes perfect sense to me. I withdraw my caution.</p>
<p>I'm only familiar with it for it's original purpose after a brief and aborted foray into gunsmithing years ago. I am such a mechanical geek. I agree that it builds to a very beautiful & durable sheen. And, it's soooooo easy to use and easy to control the final results.</p>
<p>We all learn and get educated by each other and you just contributed invaluably to my databank.</p>
<p>Have fun with your…</p>
<p>Thanks Joe :)</p>
<p>Your answer makes perfect sense to me. I withdraw my caution.</p>
<p>I'm only familiar with it for it's original purpose after a brief and aborted foray into gunsmithing years ago. I am such a mechanical geek. I agree that it builds to a very beautiful & durable sheen. And, it's soooooo easy to use and easy to control the final results.</p>
<p>We all learn and get educated by each other and you just contributed invaluably to my databank.</p>
<p>Have fun with your build and thanks again for the info. Sounds like it's gonna be a good time for ya :)</p> sylvan, I just picked up some…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-07:2177249:Comment:1319482014-05-07T00:08:27.216Zjoeguamhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/joeguam
<p>sylvan, I just picked up some frisket .001 film on ebay, I'm going to give it a shot and carefully go about it:</p>
<ol>
<li>Apply frisket to general bridge area</li>
<li>Locate bridge</li>
<li>Trace bridge outline onto frisket film</li>
<li>Scribe/cut-out frisket film 1mm inside the bridge outline</li>
<li>Pore-fill with z-poxy 3 coats, level sanding between coats (I'll most likely sand by hand right around the frisket film and use a finish sander for the rest of the…</li>
</ol>
<p>sylvan, I just picked up some frisket .001 film on ebay, I'm going to give it a shot and carefully go about it:</p>
<ol>
<li>Apply frisket to general bridge area</li>
<li>Locate bridge</li>
<li>Trace bridge outline onto frisket film</li>
<li>Scribe/cut-out frisket film 1mm inside the bridge outline</li>
<li>Pore-fill with z-poxy 3 coats, level sanding between coats (I'll most likely sand by hand right around the frisket film and use a finish sander for the rest of the instrument).</li>
<li>Finish with TruOil, as many coats as needed, 0000 steel wool buffing between coats</li>
</ol>
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<p>If anyone has any improvements to this strategy/plan, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks!</p> Thanks Paul, I'm very interes…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-06:2177249:Comment:1321982014-05-06T21:09:39.382Zjoeguamhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/joeguam
Thanks Paul, I'm very interested in your cautions. I've seen very many successful finishes with TruOil online, even on the top. There are some great examples I've seen of bringing TruOil to high gloss with lots of very thin coats and the articles I've read claim TruOil is much more durable than French Polishing as it is a varnish that hardens, unlike natural oils (e.g. tung, lemon, etc.). Traditionally, TruOil is used on gun stocks which are subjected to much more harsh environments than…
Thanks Paul, I'm very interested in your cautions. I've seen very many successful finishes with TruOil online, even on the top. There are some great examples I've seen of bringing TruOil to high gloss with lots of very thin coats and the articles I've read claim TruOil is much more durable than French Polishing as it is a varnish that hardens, unlike natural oils (e.g. tung, lemon, etc.). Traditionally, TruOil is used on gun stocks which are subjected to much more harsh environments than instruments. TruOil also claims that their product is actually a protectant against humidity extremes, and also helps to prevents water damage.<br />
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I truly respect your knowledge so please share any advice you can based on your experiences with TruOil. All that I know is what I've read from others who have blogged their experiences. I used minwax wipe-on polyurethane for my two previous refinishing jobs, but that's only because that's what I could find locally.<br />
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Thanks in advance! I finished my first couple of…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-06:2177249:Comment:1320362014-05-06T21:05:13.499ZJeff Highlandhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffHighland
<p>I finished my first couple of instruments in tru oil</p>
<p>No humidity issues or stability issues</p>
<p>It is more like a varnish than an oil and does not penetrate deeply</p>
<p>Yes you need to get to bare wood before gluing</p>
<p>I finished my first couple of instruments in tru oil</p>
<p>No humidity issues or stability issues</p>
<p>It is more like a varnish than an oil and does not penetrate deeply</p>
<p>Yes you need to get to bare wood before gluing</p> Thanks Sylvan! So you're reco…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-06:2177249:Comment:1321962014-05-06T20:49:02.854Zjoeguamhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/joeguam
Thanks Sylvan! So you're recommendation is to use Frisket even BEFORE I lay any z-poxy down to pore fill?<br />
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Or, should I pore fill first, the lay down the Frisket?
Thanks Sylvan! So you're recommendation is to use Frisket even BEFORE I lay any z-poxy down to pore fill?<br />
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Or, should I pore fill first, the lay down the Frisket? "..then apply truoil."
Are yo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-06:2177249:Comment:1319422014-05-06T20:42:10.785ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>"..then apply truoil."</p>
<p>Are you going to finish the top in tru oil? It's your build, but if you do that, you'll likely have some serious humidity related issues and possible stability issues with the instrument.</p>
<p>Also, oil and glues don't play well together.</p>
<p>My comments are only cautionary and food for consideration.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your build & have fun with it :)</p>
<p>"..then apply truoil."</p>
<p>Are you going to finish the top in tru oil? It's your build, but if you do that, you'll likely have some serious humidity related issues and possible stability issues with the instrument.</p>
<p>Also, oil and glues don't play well together.</p>
<p>My comments are only cautionary and food for consideration.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your build & have fun with it :)</p> Glue will not stick well to a…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-06:2177249:Comment:1321042014-05-06T20:41:02.297Zsylvanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/sylvan
<p>Glue will not stick well to any finish. It needs to be clean. In acoustic guitars the best masking of the bridge area I have found is with Frisket (1 mil) tape. It is used in the airbrush industry and sticks very well. Do a google search. Once I have masked off the bridge area I can paint, sand AND buff the guitar without removing the frisket tape. The, using the bridge I carefully cut the finish around the bridge and remove the Frisket tape. Now you have an exact footprint of your bridge…</p>
<p>Glue will not stick well to any finish. It needs to be clean. In acoustic guitars the best masking of the bridge area I have found is with Frisket (1 mil) tape. It is used in the airbrush industry and sticks very well. Do a google search. Once I have masked off the bridge area I can paint, sand AND buff the guitar without removing the frisket tape. The, using the bridge I carefully cut the finish around the bridge and remove the Frisket tape. Now you have an exact footprint of your bridge area and, IT IS CLEAN! Ready for glue!</p>