Should fretboard fall off at body join? - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T01:43:17Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/should-fretboard-fall-off-at-body-join?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A125779&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis is a nylon string guitar…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-22:2177249:Comment:1261952014-01-22T02:20:15.427ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>This is a nylon string guitar. The body is classical while the neck is like a steel string, narrower. My #1 guitar was 100% classical. My #2 was built with the narrower neck. This guitar doesn't have a cut-away and I don't use the frets 13-19. They are more a decoration than a functional part of the guitar. </p>
<p>This is a nylon string guitar. The body is classical while the neck is like a steel string, narrower. My #1 guitar was 100% classical. My #2 was built with the narrower neck. This guitar doesn't have a cut-away and I don't use the frets 13-19. They are more a decoration than a functional part of the guitar. </p> On a dread sized guitar I bui…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-21:2177249:Comment:1260882014-01-21T23:33:15.035ZHesh Breakstonehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/HeshBreakstone
On a dread sized guitar I build in .015" of fall-away measured at the last fret. It's desirable and also something that we build-in on refrets and mill in on fret dresses.<br />
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I take it that this is a steel string with no cut-away and if the player might be you and this guitar will not be for sale and... you don't play above the body joint slightly more fall-away than my .015" should not matter.
On a dread sized guitar I build in .015" of fall-away measured at the last fret. It's desirable and also something that we build-in on refrets and mill in on fret dresses.<br />
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I take it that this is a steel string with no cut-away and if the player might be you and this guitar will not be for sale and... you don't play above the body joint slightly more fall-away than my .015" should not matter. Kerry K.: Where are you? I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-21:2177249:Comment:1259602014-01-21T17:32:13.393ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>Kerry K.: Where are you? I took pics as requested. Need help. Thanks.</p>
<p>Kerry K.: Where are you? I took pics as requested. Need help. Thanks.</p> Okay, Tim, Thankstag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1260222014-01-20T22:48:00.777ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>Okay, Tim, Thanks</p>
<p>Okay, Tim, Thanks</p> Kerry
I had a neighbor who ha…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1260172014-01-20T22:46:57.364ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>Kerry</p>
<p>I had a neighbor who has a High Resolution camera take the following pictures. Hope this helps. </p>
<p>Kerry</p>
<p>I had a neighbor who has a High Resolution camera take the following pictures. Hope this helps. </p> Much better to fall a little…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1260052014-01-20T12:01:17.377ZTim Macehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/TimMace478
<p>Much better to fall a little than rise and I've read on this site and elsewhere that classical builders prefer 0 to slight neg angle ...if it plays well don't sweat it ! Hopefully w/the bridge/strings on, the neck remains stable.....steel or nylon?Ramirez thinned out the bass side in that area to improved bass response I believe.</p>
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<p>Much better to fall a little than rise and I've read on this site and elsewhere that classical builders prefer 0 to slight neg angle ...if it plays well don't sweat it ! Hopefully w/the bridge/strings on, the neck remains stable.....steel or nylon?Ramirez thinned out the bass side in that area to improved bass response I believe.</p>
<p></p> There are 19 frets on this gu…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1258622014-01-20T02:38:32.776ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>There are 19 frets on this guitar. One quarter is on the 10th, other is on 19th</p>
<p>There are 19 frets on this guitar. One quarter is on the 10th, other is on 19th</p> This neck join is a spanish f…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1257792014-01-20T02:13:01.641ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>This neck join is a spanish foot. The bridge is not installed.</p>
<p>This neck join is a spanish foot. The bridge is not installed.</p> I took pics according to my u…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1258562014-01-20T02:10:47.451ZRon Daveshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonDaves
<p>I took pics according to my understanding of what you are asking for:</p>
<p>I took pics according to my understanding of what you are asking for:</p> A bit of fallaway toward the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-01-20:2177249:Comment:1259392014-01-20T01:58:40.121ZAndrewhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/Andrew715
A bit of fallaway toward the body isnt necessarily a bad thing, and helps to reduce buzzing in the upper register. But to me a 16th is more than Id be comfortable seeing. Might have a noticeable effect on intonation when playing up there. I wouldnt want to see any more than a 32nd, and even that would seem a lot to me. I generally try to only go with as much fallaway as the guitar needs, starting with none and working up (down?) a few thou at a time (assuming the neck is perfectly…
A bit of fallaway toward the body isnt necessarily a bad thing, and helps to reduce buzzing in the upper register. But to me a 16th is more than Id be comfortable seeing. Might have a noticeable effect on intonation when playing up there. I wouldnt want to see any more than a 32nd, and even that would seem a lot to me. I generally try to only go with as much fallaway as the guitar needs, starting with none and working up (down?) a few thou at a time (assuming the neck is perfectly cooperative).<br/>
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I wouldnt be freaking out though, depending on the reason. How did the neck joint go together? If the angle was enough, maybe it could have required a shim under the tongue. If theres enough material on the fingerboard (inlays?) and the neck angle will allow it, maybe you could bring the headstock half down a little so the fallaway is less pronounced. Youll need to get the straightedges out and do some humming and hawing. Is the bridge already installed? That could have an influence on what the solution will be, or conversely the solution could change things at the bridge.