String Through Body.....Gibson SG Bass - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T06:51:17Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/string-through-body-gibson-sg-bass?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A91418&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks all for the advice.
I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-27:2177249:Comment:912492012-07-27T14:10:24.065ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Thanks all for the advice.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to find a local dealer who stocked the Hipshot Supertone bridge, so I was able to take a drive over and check it out before buying and I must agree, nice bit of kit. Its solves the issue and because its a direct replacement, I can re-fit the original should I choose ever to sell the bass (although I don't see that happening..I love it)!</p>
<p>Problem solved</p>
<p>Cheers.........Brian</p>
<p>Thanks all for the advice.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to find a local dealer who stocked the Hipshot Supertone bridge, so I was able to take a drive over and check it out before buying and I must agree, nice bit of kit. Its solves the issue and because its a direct replacement, I can re-fit the original should I choose ever to sell the bass (although I don't see that happening..I love it)!</p>
<p>Problem solved</p>
<p>Cheers.........Brian</p> Also,
"but I would much prefe…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-27:2177249:Comment:915362012-07-27T01:10:04.020ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Also,</p>
<p>"but I would much prefer to stick with the original "Gibson" hardware."</p>
<p>The Hipshot is a very significant upgrade over the Gibson hardware. It's like comparing a Chevy Nova to a Mercedes CLS class car.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Just FYI (-:</p>
<p></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<p>"but I would much prefer to stick with the original "Gibson" hardware."</p>
<p>The Hipshot is a very significant upgrade over the Gibson hardware. It's like comparing a Chevy Nova to a Mercedes CLS class car.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Just FYI (-:</p>
<p></p> Other than using surplus ball…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-26:2177249:Comment:914262012-07-26T17:39:44.400ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Other than using surplus ball ends, you could have a machine shop mill a 1/4" thick steel spacer to use. It can be "blended" into the design of the existing bridge.Brass & aluminum are not recommended due to the extreme tension of the large gauge strings.</p>
<p>You could also try taper wound strings that have the naked core of the string seated in the saddles. The wraps start right after the core wire clears the bridge.</p>
<p>Also, having the wraps in the saddle groves should not…</p>
<p>Other than using surplus ball ends, you could have a machine shop mill a 1/4" thick steel spacer to use. It can be "blended" into the design of the existing bridge.Brass & aluminum are not recommended due to the extreme tension of the large gauge strings.</p>
<p>You could also try taper wound strings that have the naked core of the string seated in the saddles. The wraps start right after the core wire clears the bridge.</p>
<p>Also, having the wraps in the saddle groves should not affect the performance of the bass if the saddles are cut or adjusted to accommodate the extra wraps. I simply adjust the saddles to get a good radius on the string geometry and go with that.</p>
<p>I have this issue with various bass bridges. I don't think it's as much a bridge problem as a string manufacturing problem. The worst are the silk wrapped balls. E-mail this pic to D'Addario and ask them to consider addressing the issue on their end. Again, it's a universal issue nowadays. The hardware folks really need to start talking to the string makers and vice versa.</p>
<p>Finally, Gibson put that bridge 1/8" ahead of where it should be.</p>
<p>It's a gorgeous bass. Have fun with it(:</p>
<p>Best of luck</p>
<p></p> I'm still unsure which way to…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-26:2177249:Comment:915252012-07-26T09:13:50.194ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>I'm still unsure which way to go, from images I've seen online, the Hipshot bridge doesn't seem to solve the problem unless used with the "through body" method, in which case I might as well stick with the original 3 point bridge.</p>
<p>I also agree that modification would detract from the re-sale value, (although I love this bass and could never see me selling it), so that is another issue to consider</p>
<p>I really don't know what to do, meanwhile I have found a temporary "fix" (see…</p>
<p>I'm still unsure which way to go, from images I've seen online, the Hipshot bridge doesn't seem to solve the problem unless used with the "through body" method, in which case I might as well stick with the original 3 point bridge.</p>
<p>I also agree that modification would detract from the re-sale value, (although I love this bass and could never see me selling it), so that is another issue to consider</p>
<p>I really don't know what to do, meanwhile I have found a temporary "fix" (see attached image), using the ball ends of old strings, ugly, but it works!!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"></p> I'd use some of that telescop…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-25:2177249:Comment:913202012-07-25T20:30:01.516ZJeffrey L. Suitshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JeffreyLSuits
<p>I'd use some of that telescoping brass tubing to back off the string balls.</p>
<p>I'd use some of that telescoping brass tubing to back off the string balls.</p> Personally, I would go with t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-25:2177249:Comment:915192012-07-25T19:11:51.933ZJoshua Levin-Epsteinhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoshuaLevinEpstein
<p>Personally, I would go with the Hipshot bridge. The Gibson bass bridges are pretty horrible with very loose tolerances. Also, the 3-point bridge is "designed" to be pulled into place by the string pull (then locked by the forward stud). There would be a tremendous amount of down pressure after the string through conversion. I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge collapsed.</p>
<p>Not that you asked but, in my opinion, you would have difficulty selling this bass with the string through mod.…</p>
<p>Personally, I would go with the Hipshot bridge. The Gibson bass bridges are pretty horrible with very loose tolerances. Also, the 3-point bridge is "designed" to be pulled into place by the string pull (then locked by the forward stud). There would be a tremendous amount of down pressure after the string through conversion. I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge collapsed.</p>
<p>Not that you asked but, in my opinion, you would have difficulty selling this bass with the string through mod. should the romance sour.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If you make the conversion, You will need to use a longer string. You might even be able to use some long scale strings, which would give you greater choice. But I would still go with the Hipshot bridge.</p>
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<p>Joshua</p>
<p> </p> Yes, thanks Michael, I did sp…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-25:2177249:Comment:914212012-07-25T16:42:42.129ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Yes, thanks Michael, I did spot this some time ago, 10/10, top idea! There is also a "spacing" bar available online, but I honestly think that the amount gained would still not be sufficient, should you need to pull the bridge saddles <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>right back</strong></span> to obtain precise intonation, (you will see this on the video).</p>
<p>The solution I've suggested would take up roughly 2 inches of string length but, that would then pull the…</p>
<p>Yes, thanks Michael, I did spot this some time ago, 10/10, top idea! There is also a "spacing" bar available online, but I honestly think that the amount gained would still not be sufficient, should you need to pull the bridge saddles <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>right back</strong></span> to obtain precise intonation, (you will see this on the video).</p>
<p>The solution I've suggested would take up roughly 2 inches of string length but, that would then pull the narrower winding (at the tuner end) over the nut, so there would still be a problem, however I think this is easily overcome by using medium scale strings; am I right??</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time Michael; much appreciated.</p>
<p>Any other advice?</p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-07-25:2177249:Comment:914182012-07-25T13:55:35.739ZMichael P. Lemieuxhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MichaelPLemieux
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rBHfaEWQ3c&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rBHfaEWQ3c&feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>Hey Brian,</p>
<p>Found this on youtube. Looks like a easy fix.</p>
<p>Just a thought</p>
<p>Michael</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rBHfaEWQ3c&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rBHfaEWQ3c&feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>Hey Brian,</p>
<p>Found this on youtube. Looks like a easy fix.</p>
<p>Just a thought</p>
<p>Michael</p>