Super glued Martin neck/body joint - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T11:32:43Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/super-glued-martin-neck-body-joint?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A191685&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI don't have any actual repai…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-27:2177249:Comment:1918102020-06-27T18:04:46.078ZBrian Stewarthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianStewart
<p>I don't have any actual repair advice for you, other than has already been said...it is what it is and a neck reset is most likely out of the question...although maybe heat applied through the bolt hole...hmm...</p>
<p> I own and operate a guitar and amplifier repair shop that also does retail sales in a small town and have to say, the name Martin sells guitars. I often get customers that come into the shop and ask after looking around a bit..."do you have any Martins?" It really doesn't…</p>
<p>I don't have any actual repair advice for you, other than has already been said...it is what it is and a neck reset is most likely out of the question...although maybe heat applied through the bolt hole...hmm...</p>
<p> I own and operate a guitar and amplifier repair shop that also does retail sales in a small town and have to say, the name Martin sells guitars. I often get customers that come into the shop and ask after looking around a bit..."do you have any Martins?" It really doesn't matter if it's all HPL or made in Mexico or whatever...if someone can say " I own/play a Martin" it's a big deal to them...it's the name that sells the guitar, not the build quality or style. My point being, a few guys complaining about repairing Martin's cheap guitars is not going to change their business model.</p>
<p>This is why I always recommend Taylor to customers looking for a new acoustic guitar, whether it's cheap or expensive. They have a consistency that I've yet to see in any other mainstream brand. From a repair standpoint,their neck joint is the best in the business and it's virtually the same across all styles and price points. If someone brings me an Academy series Taylor ($500 guitar) and wants to lower the action, I can unbolt the neck and change out the shim set in about a 1/2 hour total time start to finish. Also, Taylor has been a really good partner as far as warranty repairs & communication goes.</p>
<p>Anway, apologies for the rant. Good luck with your customer.</p> It's funny that harmonys and…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-18:2177249:Comment:1916742020-06-18T02:46:36.664ZChristopher Parkerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ChristopherParker
It's funny that harmonys and silvertones are now considered to be "guitars with some actual value". They used to be a dime-a-dozen at any pawn shop, and they were terrible players even when they were new. Beyond having limited appeal for some blues players, their only use was for luthers to practice doing neck resets. That said, I think they are cool guitars when they made to play well. Sorry for going off topic!<br />
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Regarding the topic at hand, I don't have much insight to offer. I have an 1880's…
It's funny that harmonys and silvertones are now considered to be "guitars with some actual value". They used to be a dime-a-dozen at any pawn shop, and they were terrible players even when they were new. Beyond having limited appeal for some blues players, their only use was for luthers to practice doing neck resets. That said, I think they are cool guitars when they made to play well. Sorry for going off topic!<br />
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Regarding the topic at hand, I don't have much insight to offer. I have an 1880's Martin parlor (2 1/2 - 17 model) which someone had stupidly squirted superglue under the original ebony pyramid bridge and made a mess with the glue. I can't get the bridge hot enough to remove it, so it must be chiseled off and replaced.<br />
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I'd bail on resetting the neck on that guitar if it's superglued. Customer want's to sell it...…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-12:2177249:Comment:1916642020-06-12T13:41:02.407Zthefishinmusicianhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/thefishinmusician
<p>Customer want's to sell it...Not willing to sink a lot of money into it..I thought it would be an easy bolt on reset...I might consider doing that on a guitar with some actual value...Like a Harmony or Silvertone...</p>
<p>Customer want's to sell it...Not willing to sink a lot of money into it..I thought it would be an easy bolt on reset...I might consider doing that on a guitar with some actual value...Like a Harmony or Silvertone...</p> Sacrifice a saw blade and cut…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-12:2177249:Comment:1913622020-06-12T05:35:36.529ZRedactedhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/Redacted
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sacrifice a saw blade and cut the tenon flush.</span></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Remove remnants of the insert.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Make loose tenon stock.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Route neck and body for loose tenon.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">etc.........................</span></font></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sacrifice a saw blade and cut the tenon flush.</span></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Remove remnants of the insert.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Make loose tenon stock.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">Route neck and body for loose tenon.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="3"><span style="line-height: 20px;">etc.........................</span></font></p> seems weird that martin would…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-11:2177249:Comment:1913582020-06-11T06:09:25.225ZWalter W Wrighthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/WalterWWright
<p>seems weird that martin would bother with one kind of glue for the fretboard tongue and another for the heel, though. maybe just go for it with heat like you did with the tongue</p>
<p>seems weird that martin would bother with one kind of glue for the fretboard tongue and another for the heel, though. maybe just go for it with heat like you did with the tongue</p> unbelievable
check that it wo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-11:2177249:Comment:1915702020-06-11T06:04:57.148ZWalter W Wrighthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/WalterWWright
<p>unbelievable</p>
<p>check that it won't mess up the finish, then flood the zone with CA remover?</p>
<p>unbelievable</p>
<p>check that it won't mess up the finish, then flood the zone with CA remover?</p> So, Martin have decided to ma…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-10:2177249:Comment:1915642020-06-10T11:20:13.312ZMark McLeanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarkMcLean
<p>So, Martin have decided to make disposable products. Like Ikea. Interesting! It is a valid manufacturing and marketing strategy. Ikea has its place, and apparently a good business model. But it is not an ethos that I admire. </p>
<p>So, Martin have decided to make disposable products. Like Ikea. Interesting! It is a valid manufacturing and marketing strategy. Ikea has its place, and apparently a good business model. But it is not an ethos that I admire. </p> I’m assuming these Mexico mad…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-09:2177249:Comment:1916852020-06-09T22:14:09.903Zjbbancrofthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JamesBBancroft
<p>I’m assuming these Mexico made guitars have a bolt on mortise and tenon joint. There would be no sense in using superglue to glue the joint as a wood glue would be fine. I’m also assuming the neck block is wood and the neck is laminated wood.</p>
<p>personally I wouldn’t buy such a guitar and if most everyone else would boycott buying them maybe Martin would drop making them.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
<p>I’m assuming these Mexico made guitars have a bolt on mortise and tenon joint. There would be no sense in using superglue to glue the joint as a wood glue would be fine. I’m also assuming the neck block is wood and the neck is laminated wood.</p>
<p>personally I wouldn’t buy such a guitar and if most everyone else would boycott buying them maybe Martin would drop making them.</p>
<p>Jim</p> I’m assuming these Mexico mad…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-09:2177249:Comment:1915612020-06-09T22:14:05.363Zjbbancrofthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JamesBBancroft
<p>I’m assuming these Mexico made guitars have a bolt on mortise and tenon joint. There would be no sense in using superglue to glue the joint as a wood glue would be fine. I’m also assuming the neck block is wood and the neck is laminated wood.</p>
<p>personally I wouldn’t buy such a guitar and if most everyone else would boycott buying them maybe Martin would drop making them.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
<p>I’m assuming these Mexico made guitars have a bolt on mortise and tenon joint. There would be no sense in using superglue to glue the joint as a wood glue would be fine. I’m also assuming the neck block is wood and the neck is laminated wood.</p>
<p>personally I wouldn’t buy such a guitar and if most everyone else would boycott buying them maybe Martin would drop making them.</p>
<p>Jim</p> Yup, good ol' PR-600. With th…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2020-06-09:2177249:Comment:1916582020-06-09T21:13:54.206ZGreg Mirkenhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/GregMirken
<p>Yup, good ol' PR-600. With the cost of these Mexico-made instruments, Martin doesn't feel they warrant as major a repair as a neck reset. You might find some other way to improve the playability.</p>
<p>Yup, good ol' PR-600. With the cost of these Mexico-made instruments, Martin doesn't feel they warrant as major a repair as a neck reset. You might find some other way to improve the playability.</p>