Try fitting a thin card tornavoz. - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T10:01:03Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/try-fitting-a-thin-card?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A29740&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThat's funny, John. I got a c…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-24:2177249:Comment:297402010-05-24T00:24:58.108ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
That's funny, John. I got a chuckle out of it and, of course, I had to look it up too.<br />
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I recently read a book that my daughter recommend to me. It is about the English language and it evolution. I can't remember the title right now but it was a fun read. According to the author, an American in England, there something like 2000 or more words that don't match up in usage or definition between British English and American English. Some of them can lead to some very awkward misunderstandings. I…
That's funny, John. I got a chuckle out of it and, of course, I had to look it up too.<br />
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I recently read a book that my daughter recommend to me. It is about the English language and it evolution. I can't remember the title right now but it was a fun read. According to the author, an American in England, there something like 2000 or more words that don't match up in usage or definition between British English and American English. Some of them can lead to some very awkward misunderstandings. I once heard a very funny, from our point of view, story concerning a "W.C." that hinged on this sort of misunderstanding. We all speak the same language except when we don't.<br />
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Ned Ned We have lots of timber su…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-23:2177249:Comment:297362010-05-23T10:44:24.777ZJohn Caddhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JohnCadd
Ned We have lots of timber suppliers that give metric sizes for thickness and then want to know how many feet you want.That really messes me up.But timber people talk about "nominal" sizes so you never really know what `s coming. My son thinks in metric ( in conversation ) where I have to make a mental gear change. When he was small a "normal "clock with a dial would confuse him.The school had the flop-over numbers 60s style. We met a nice American couple in Cumbria once who asked " Is your "…
Ned We have lots of timber suppliers that give metric sizes for thickness and then want to know how many feet you want.That really messes me up.But timber people talk about "nominal" sizes so you never really know what `s coming. My son thinks in metric ( in conversation ) where I have to make a mental gear change. When he was small a "normal "clock with a dial would confuse him.The school had the flop-over numbers 60s style. We met a nice American couple in Cumbria once who asked " Is your " lorry " the same as our " truck"? That was nice. It gives a charm to the difference. Any newcomer to guitars heads for the dictionary when the word "plantilla " comes up. Ehh?? The problem is that it's hard…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-22:2177249:Comment:297222010-05-22T21:46:00.652ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
The problem is that it's hard to envision something in our minds that is measured in millimeters unless we have worked with metric measurements a lot. I would guess that it's the same reason you used millimeters instead of inches. BTW, not all rulers in America have both on them. I've got several measuring tapes around the place and I think about half have metric scales too.<br />
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It's our quarter of a dollar that throws english as a second language people. Our paper money has 1, 5, 10, 20, 50 and…
The problem is that it's hard to envision something in our minds that is measured in millimeters unless we have worked with metric measurements a lot. I would guess that it's the same reason you used millimeters instead of inches. BTW, not all rulers in America have both on them. I've got several measuring tapes around the place and I think about half have metric scales too.<br />
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It's our quarter of a dollar that throws english as a second language people. Our paper money has 1, 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100 dollar bill but our coinage uses 1, 5, 10, 25, 50 and 100 cent coins. It seems to be hard for people that don't grow up with it to understand the 25 cent coin until they understand what a "quarter" is. (Just to mess up the paper bills, we also have a, not very popular, 2 dollar bill. Business don't like them much because most cash register trays don't have a slot for them.)<br />
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Ned Well not so bad , you got my…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-22:2177249:Comment:297142010-05-22T07:43:02.981ZJohn Caddhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JohnCadd
Well not so bad , you got my funny story out of it. The part about measurements got me thinking. What sort of rulers do Americans have? Don`t they have inches and millimetres as well? What`s on the other side of the rulers? When I went to school we had all sorts of old fashioned things to learn . Bushells and pecks. Florins and farthings. Inches and millimetres.We used inches and feet but still learned all the others. But we also did Latin and the school week finished 12 o`clock mid day…
Well not so bad , you got my funny story out of it. The part about measurements got me thinking. What sort of rulers do Americans have? Don`t they have inches and millimetres as well? What`s on the other side of the rulers? When I went to school we had all sorts of old fashioned things to learn . Bushells and pecks. Florins and farthings. Inches and millimetres.We used inches and feet but still learned all the others. But we also did Latin and the school week finished 12 o`clock mid day Saturday. Very odd that. Hi John Smith.
I was referrin…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-21:2177249:Comment:297132010-05-21T22:54:17.720ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
Hi John Smith.<br />
I was referring to CAPITOL letters. You apologized twice in your last post and I was just wanting to let you know that your use of them is appropriate. I'm an old computer guy and "caps" has become such a part of my vocabulary that I forget that it is a truncation of the word "capitol". Sorry for the confusion.<br />
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Hi John Smith.<br />
I was referring to CAPITOL letters. You apologized twice in your last post and I was just wanting to let you know that your use of them is appropriate. I'm an old computer guy and "caps" has become such a part of my vocabulary that I forget that it is a truncation of the word "capitol". Sorry for the confusion.<br />
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Ned I never said anything about u…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-21:2177249:Comment:297122010-05-21T21:26:13.317Zjohn smithhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/johnsmith
I never said anything about using caps so I am confused by your comment. The only thing I did was to say I am interested in the idea and to provide dimension conversion in the hopes that others will try it and give some feedback.
I never said anything about using caps so I am confused by your comment. The only thing I did was to say I am interested in the idea and to provide dimension conversion in the hopes that others will try it and give some feedback. Sorry John (Cadd) I was respo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-21:2177249:Comment:297062010-05-21T16:24:07.826ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
Sorry John (Cadd) I was responding to John (Smith) because he seems to feel that any use of all cap words is out of line. I was just letting him know that how he is use all caps is acceptable.<br />
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I've been involved in a few forums that had threads that ended in flame wars. No one wins.<br />
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Sorry John (Cadd) I was responding to John (Smith) because he seems to feel that any use of all cap words is out of line. I was just letting him know that how he is use all caps is acceptable.<br />
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I've been involved in a few forums that had threads that ended in flame wars. No one wins.<br />
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Ned Sorry about the capitals Ned.…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-21:2177249:Comment:297042010-05-21T11:38:03.158ZJohn Caddhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JohnCadd
Sorry about the capitals Ned. Funny story about that . On another site where players of another string instrument ( no names , no pack drill ) had a disagreement going back some months,they had a real go at each other.It finished with abuse in red letters an inch high.Next day the topic had been deleted. My latest way is to leave extra space either side of the word.<br />
The size of tube I am using has now reduced to about one and a half inches. It seemed balanced too much to the bass side. But it…
Sorry about the capitals Ned. Funny story about that . On another site where players of another string instrument ( no names , no pack drill ) had a disagreement going back some months,they had a real go at each other.It finished with abuse in red letters an inch high.Next day the topic had been deleted. My latest way is to leave extra space either side of the word.<br />
The size of tube I am using has now reduced to about one and a half inches. It seemed balanced too much to the bass side. But it was never boomy. Even though there is a lot of room on a fretboard for several frets between the lowest two frets the tone of each tube position (to your ears) is much more specific.So just avoiding the exact fret position is not enough for your ears.There are a number of positions that will sound good.You have the fun a picking your own. John,
Your use of caps for em…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-21:2177249:Comment:297022010-05-21T02:29:21.991ZNed Knepphttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
John,<br />
Your use of caps for emphasis is appropriate. They only become a problem when EVERYTHING is written in caps. Not only is it hard to read, it is also forum convention that emphasizing every word is equal to yelling at the reader.<br />
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John,<br />
Your use of caps for emphasis is appropriate. They only become a problem when EVERYTHING is written in caps. Not only is it hard to read, it is also forum convention that emphasizing every word is equal to yelling at the reader.<br />
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Ned For us Americans I have conve…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2010-05-20:2177249:Comment:297002010-05-20T23:18:55.365Zjohn smithhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/johnsmith
For us Americans I have converted the dims to inches which are approximate. I am hoping some of you will experiment with this as it sounds very interesting.<br />
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Get some thin card.Make a strip 2" wide and long enough to go round the soundhole with a .75" overlap.Draw a line along the strip .39" from the edge. Cut into the pencil line every .39" all along the line.( cut on the short side of the line ) . Bend the cut bits at right angles .Now when you curve that round the hole you can tape the bent…
For us Americans I have converted the dims to inches which are approximate. I am hoping some of you will experiment with this as it sounds very interesting.<br />
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Get some thin card.Make a strip 2" wide and long enough to go round the soundhole with a .75" overlap.Draw a line along the strip .39" from the edge. Cut into the pencil line every .39" all along the line.( cut on the short side of the line ) . Bend the cut bits at right angles .Now when you curve that round the hole you can tape the bent bits to hold it in place.Tape the bent bits to the top surface. Put some tape on the join inside the hole.The second "sleeve" is just a tube , about 2.35" deep ,that will fit snugly inside the first one.Fix two pieces of tape ,one each side ,to control the depth.Bend those two tape "controllers" onto the top when you try a new position.The sticky side should be covered so only the bit above the hole will grip.The depth changes can then be made without moving the strings out of the way each time you make a change.When you move the inner tube DOWN ( excuse capitals ) use a piece of plastic just to nudge the tube down.I used a long plastic rawlplug.No chance of damaging the strings.<br />
The tape is used to RAISE the tube as you search for the sweet spot. ( excuse capitals once again ) You only have to let the strings down once for fitting the tubes.Don`t try squeezing the tubes in between the strings as they will get out all of shape.Try to get a nice even round shape as it works better like that.<br />
Measure each change in depth from the top surface only.( don`t measure from the back ) . For a full size guitar it will probably be near 3+". Only you can tell the exact position by playing and listening.(Give each position a 5 minute play time and check the quality of the harmonic notes when you do that ). Come back and say how you got on.