Uneven neck relief. - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T11:11:44Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/uneven-neck-relief?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A132531&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEnd result looks great!
Quest…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-10-02:2177249:Comment:1630012016-10-02T04:06:53.694ZStewart C Simonhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/StewartCSimon
<p>End result looks great!</p>
<p>Question tho…why do you nip the fret tang on an unbound fingerboard…?</p>
<p>Just curios…;-)</p>
<p>Warm Regards, SS</p>
<p>End result looks great!</p>
<p>Question tho…why do you nip the fret tang on an unbound fingerboard…?</p>
<p>Just curios…;-)</p>
<p>Warm Regards, SS</p> Nathan,
Could you clarify tha…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-08-02:2177249:Comment:1617492016-08-02T05:26:34.155Zsteven gallagherhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/stevengallagher
<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Could you clarify that you use a convex sanding beam? I've never seen one that wasn't flat or concave.</p>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>Could you clarify that you use a convex sanding beam? I've never seen one that wasn't flat or concave.</p>
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<p>Thanks</p> Needless twist removal on a c…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-08-01:2177249:Comment:1618452016-08-01T13:29:31.986ZDavid Farmerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/DavidFarmer
<p>Needless twist removal on a customers 39' Martin.</p>
<p>Look at the fingerboard end!…</p>
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<p>Needless twist removal on a customers 39' Martin.</p>
<p>Look at the fingerboard end!</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167753202?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167753202?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p> I don't see removing " neck t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-08-01:2177249:Comment:1618402016-08-01T13:08:09.357ZDavid Farmerhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/DavidFarmer
<p>I don't see removing " neck twist" as necessary. Proper relief on treble and bass sides Is essential. </p>
<p>I see twist as a separate and usually irrelevant issue. </p>
<p>One down side to using a full length radius beam parallel to the neck is it gratuitously removes (or imparts!) twist.</p>
<p>I don't see removing " neck twist" as necessary. Proper relief on treble and bass sides Is essential. </p>
<p>I see twist as a separate and usually irrelevant issue. </p>
<p>One down side to using a full length radius beam parallel to the neck is it gratuitously removes (or imparts!) twist.</p> Nathan,the pics in that photo…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-08-01:2177249:Comment:1617372016-08-01T02:17:21.066ZKerry Krishnahttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p>Nathan,the pics in that photoessay are amazing. Some has both an eye and a great camera!</p>
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<p>Nathan,the pics in that photoessay are amazing. Some has both an eye and a great camera!</p>
<p></p> Sometimes there ain't a fix,…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-08-01:2177249:Comment:1618282016-08-01T01:47:45.537ZRobbie Collinshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Sometimes there ain't a fix, only a repair.</p>
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<p>Sometimes there ain't a fix, only a repair.</p>
<p></p> Didn't have time to read the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-28:2177249:Comment:1615752016-07-28T09:38:25.726ZHesh Breakstonehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/HeshBreakstone
<p>Didn't have time to read the other posts so my apologies if any of this is redundant.</p>
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<p>A refret can correct the relief and if your client does not want to go that route a fret dress by a skilled Luthier, not a novice or hobbyist, can correct relief too. It's an art though and not something that I can explain appropriately here or on any forum.</p>
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<p>The advantage of the refret is full new fret height is mostly preserved where when correcting relief with a fret dress…</p>
<p>Didn't have time to read the other posts so my apologies if any of this is redundant.</p>
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<p>A refret can correct the relief and if your client does not want to go that route a fret dress by a skilled Luthier, not a novice or hobbyist, can correct relief too. It's an art though and not something that I can explain appropriately here or on any forum.</p>
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<p>The advantage of the refret is full new fret height is mostly preserved where when correcting relief with a fret dress lots of fret height in certain regions may have to be removed and reduced.</p>
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<p>It's easy to do, takes me about an hour and is always an individual effort with the degrees of correction being a function of how messed up the individual instrument you are working on is. Our fret dresses and set-ups are less than 1/2 the price of a refret.</p>
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<p>I'm seeing that no effort is made these days by most f*ctories to correct relief making proper relief very much a luck of the draw thing. </p> Ive been building repairing a…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-07-28:2177249:Comment:1618182016-07-28T06:36:39.400ZJim Pratthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JimPratt
Ive been building repairing and setting up strats for 10 years now. Maybe some speculation here but Ive seen so many strat owners complain about uneven neck relief on 2000 and newer strats. I just finished setting one up that Id bought and almost sold at a loss because I encountered this same thing. Truss gives more relief on the heavy top E string. Dont worry too much about it as long as the opposite side (giving less relief) is straight. If its severely backbowed while the Top side is…
Ive been building repairing and setting up strats for 10 years now. Maybe some speculation here but Ive seen so many strat owners complain about uneven neck relief on 2000 and newer strats. I just finished setting one up that Id bought and almost sold at a loss because I encountered this same thing. Truss gives more relief on the heavy top E string. Dont worry too much about it as long as the opposite side (giving less relief) is straight. If its severely backbowed while the Top side is straight then you have a warped neck. Work with it in very small incraments as your doing all the other adjustments.(There are alot) and eventually you should be able to find the "sweet spot" for the truss. When you do you might see a very very slight difference in relief or maybe just a percieved difference, but you should be able to get the two sides very close to even relief when you find the "sweet spot" for the truss rod. Remember not too much relief but just enough so you eliminate any fret buzz. Thanks. Yes, adjust the truss rod as…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-13:2177249:Comment:1323752014-05-13T21:08:12.376Znathan clarkhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/nathanclark
<p>Yes, adjust the truss rod as close as you can to the final relief then sand with a long convex beam (or just spot sand with short ones if that's all you've got). If the distortion in the fretboard is pronounced than you should redo the refret so you can have a second go at the fretboard itself.</p>
<p>My convex sanding beam is just some aluminum rectangular tube stock that I bought at the local welding place quite a few years ago. I sanded one narrow face convex with a flat granite slab…</p>
<p>Yes, adjust the truss rod as close as you can to the final relief then sand with a long convex beam (or just spot sand with short ones if that's all you've got). If the distortion in the fretboard is pronounced than you should redo the refret so you can have a second go at the fretboard itself.</p>
<p>My convex sanding beam is just some aluminum rectangular tube stock that I bought at the local welding place quite a few years ago. I sanded one narrow face convex with a flat granite slab and some sandpaper. It's not perfect but it gets the job most of the way there and the short sanding beams dial it in.</p> Thank's for the reply, Nathan…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-13:2177249:Comment:1323742014-05-13T19:54:10.594ZJona Hasanhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoonaHasan
<p>Thank's for the reply, Nathan!</p>
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<p>So If I understand correctly, I would need a long sanding beam, that is convex for the entire length of one of its sides? Is this something that has to be machined, or do you have a trick up your sleeve for attaining something like this? :)</p>
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<p>So is the goal here to actually sand the relief INTO the frets, even though the neck/fretboard itself is straight?</p>
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<p>Best Regards, </p>
<p>Jonah</p>
<p>Thank's for the reply, Nathan!</p>
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<p>So If I understand correctly, I would need a long sanding beam, that is convex for the entire length of one of its sides? Is this something that has to be machined, or do you have a trick up your sleeve for attaining something like this? :)</p>
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<p>So is the goal here to actually sand the relief INTO the frets, even though the neck/fretboard itself is straight?</p>
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<p>Best Regards, </p>
<p>Jonah</p>