Wierd tuning issue! - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T15:58:38Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/wierd-tuning-issue?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A180763&feed=yes&xn_auth=notry pulling the strings after…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-10-04:2177249:Comment:1810262018-10-04T03:45:58.928ZRon Frazierhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonFrazier
<p>try pulling the strings after tuning and this will seat the strings at both ends and that should solve the problem </p>
<p> the string is slipping at the bridge and until the strings is pulled tight at both ends it will never stay in tune . </p>
<p>the pin dose not hold the string in but the ball end cant come out if the pin is there.</p>
<p>I teach every one to pull strings every restring job I do.</p>
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<p>RON</p>
<p>try pulling the strings after tuning and this will seat the strings at both ends and that should solve the problem </p>
<p> the string is slipping at the bridge and until the strings is pulled tight at both ends it will never stay in tune . </p>
<p>the pin dose not hold the string in but the ball end cant come out if the pin is there.</p>
<p>I teach every one to pull strings every restring job I do.</p>
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<p>RON</p> Found out only yesterday that…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-30:2177249:Comment:1809102018-09-30T10:26:19.300ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Found out only yesterday that Taylor have one of their “open roadshow” nights on, at one of my local music stores this coming Tuesday.</p>
<p>I’ve never been to one before, but I beleive that there are not only demonstations and chats on new products, but also their guitar technicians are on hand to appraise your Taylor instrument and make any small set up adjustments or advice as necessary.</p>
<p>Couldn’t haven come at a better time.......!!!</p>
<p>Found out only yesterday that Taylor have one of their “open roadshow” nights on, at one of my local music stores this coming Tuesday.</p>
<p>I’ve never been to one before, but I beleive that there are not only demonstations and chats on new products, but also their guitar technicians are on hand to appraise your Taylor instrument and make any small set up adjustments or advice as necessary.</p>
<p>Couldn’t haven come at a better time.......!!!</p> Use your loupe and look close…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-30:2177249:Comment:1807632018-09-30T01:58:59.751ZLARRY KLOSEhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>Use your loupe and look closely from the top at the nut slot for the string in question. Sometimes they get cut so the string follows a very subtle "S" curve and binds on the side of the slot--particularly a wound string. This was a problem on a mandolin I have from a very accomplished builder so it's not just a lack or care or skill on the part of the nut maker. It's hard to see sometimes. I've seen it on a couple of others instruments as well.</p>
<p>If the S curve is present,…</p>
<p>Use your loupe and look closely from the top at the nut slot for the string in question. Sometimes they get cut so the string follows a very subtle "S" curve and binds on the side of the slot--particularly a wound string. This was a problem on a mandolin I have from a very accomplished builder so it's not just a lack or care or skill on the part of the nut maker. It's hard to see sometimes. I've seen it on a couple of others instruments as well.</p>
<p>If the S curve is present, carefully file the side of the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">back</span> of the slot so that the string flows straight from the front of the nut to the tuner, then polish. That might do the trick.</p>
<p>Larry</p> Cheers Keith, you seem to hav…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-29:2177249:Comment:1809872018-09-29T09:09:56.826ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Cheers Keith, you seem to have answered my my concerns!</p>
<p>Cheeres.....Brian</p>
<p>Cheers Keith, you seem to have answered my my concerns!</p>
<p>Cheeres.....Brian</p> Love Roto bass strings. Never…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-29:2177249:Comment:1808302018-09-29T08:59:02.789ZKeith Somervillehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KeithRailton
<p>Love Roto bass strings. Never been too keen elsewhere. However, I'd just check with your luthier or guitar tech that the slot was cut for that gauge. Ordinarily, I wouldn't cut an octave A slot wider than a .20.</p>
<p>Love Roto bass strings. Never been too keen elsewhere. However, I'd just check with your luthier or guitar tech that the slot was cut for that gauge. Ordinarily, I wouldn't cut an octave A slot wider than a .20.</p> Rotosound Nickel 10-48. Good…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-29:2177249:Comment:1807602018-09-29T08:51:09.272ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Rotosound Nickel 10-48. Good string that suits my style of playing which includes flat and finger picking. Tuned to concert pitch (A440), I have used these for a fair old time and never had any issues until this and also, they are always available at a fair price, fiscally making string changing a more regular option. As I said, the plain 0.20 has cured the issue, but should I be concerned regarding the slightly extra tension?…</p>
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<p>Rotosound Nickel 10-48. Good string that suits my style of playing which includes flat and finger picking. Tuned to concert pitch (A440), I have used these for a fair old time and never had any issues until this and also, they are always available at a fair price, fiscally making string changing a more regular option. As I said, the plain 0.20 has cured the issue, but should I be concerned regarding the slightly extra tension?</p>
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<p></p> Was that nut cut specifically…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-29:2177249:Comment:1808252018-09-29T08:48:07.788ZKeith Somervillehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KeithRailton
<p>Was that nut cut specifically for that gauge? As having an oversized wound string might explain the binding issue. Don't think string tension would really be an issue unless you're changing the entire set. Changing a .22 wound to a plain .20 is the equivalent of changing a .13 gauge high E to a .12.</p>
<p>Was that nut cut specifically for that gauge? As having an oversized wound string might explain the binding issue. Don't think string tension would really be an issue unless you're changing the entire set. Changing a .22 wound to a plain .20 is the equivalent of changing a .13 gauge high E to a .12.</p> both a plain .020 and a wound…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-28:2177249:Comment:1806792018-09-28T21:45:32.098ZWalter W Wrighthttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/WalterWWright
<p>both a plain .020 and a wound .022 seem <span style="text-decoration: underline;">gigantic</span> for an octave A string!</p>
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<p>i don't think i've even even <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seen</span> a wound octave A unless it was for some sort of extra heavy down-tuned baritone set, more normal is something like a plain .018. what sizes are the rest of the strings?</p>
<p>both a plain .020 and a wound .022 seem <span style="text-decoration: underline;">gigantic</span> for an octave A string!</p>
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<p>i don't think i've even even <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seen</span> a wound octave A unless it was for some sort of extra heavy down-tuned baritone set, more normal is something like a plain .018. what sizes are the rest of the strings?</p> Thank you both.
I went back t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-28:2177249:Comment:1807552018-09-28T16:15:01.780ZBrian T. Williamshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BrianTWilliams
<p>Thank you both.</p>
<p>I went back to the nut as you both suggested, checked it closely through a jewellers loupe, burnished it with a string .002 thicker than the fitted gauge and made absolutely sure it was smooth & clean, but still the issue persisted.</p>
<p>I have now trialed a plain 0.20 and whilst this has solved the issue, I am a little concerned about the string tension. </p>
<p>Would you guys have any concerns about replacing the octave A (220Hz) WOUND 0.22 with the PLAIN 0.20…</p>
<p>Thank you both.</p>
<p>I went back to the nut as you both suggested, checked it closely through a jewellers loupe, burnished it with a string .002 thicker than the fitted gauge and made absolutely sure it was smooth & clean, but still the issue persisted.</p>
<p>I have now trialed a plain 0.20 and whilst this has solved the issue, I am a little concerned about the string tension. </p>
<p>Would you guys have any concerns about replacing the octave A (220Hz) WOUND 0.22 with the PLAIN 0.20 and assuming I can live with it, would you see it causing any issues in the future?</p>
<p>(Would anyone know these string tension differences, just as a point of reference)?</p>
<p>Cheers........Brian</p> +1 with Greg.tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2018-09-27:2177249:Comment:1808092018-09-27T21:46:20.187ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
+1 with Greg.
+1 with Greg.