Wilkinson trem post hole issue - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T20:04:15Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/wilkinson-trem-post-hole-issue?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A83625&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSure thing Paul. Glad to hea…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-03:2177249:Comment:838582012-02-03T01:24:12.158Znathan clarkhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/nathanclark
<p>Sure thing Paul. Glad to hear that the site is useful for other folks out there.</p>
<p>Sure thing Paul. Glad to hear that the site is useful for other folks out there.</p> I never said I didn't like "h…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:838572012-02-02T18:52:34.776ZJoe Foxhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoeFox
<p>I never said I didn't like "his writing style".</p>
<p>Maybe I should use more words in my posts.</p>
<p>What i was trying to say was that ALL of the articles for the trade secrets news letter are marketing.</p>
<p>But if you look past that you can get some unique ideas sometimes.</p>
<p>Actually, I like the catalog for giving me tool ideas. Then I build them myself.</p>
<p>Gee....I hope I'm not taking meat off Dan's table</p>
<p>I never said I didn't like "his writing style".</p>
<p>Maybe I should use more words in my posts.</p>
<p>What i was trying to say was that ALL of the articles for the trade secrets news letter are marketing.</p>
<p>But if you look past that you can get some unique ideas sometimes.</p>
<p>Actually, I like the catalog for giving me tool ideas. Then I build them myself.</p>
<p>Gee....I hope I'm not taking meat off Dan's table</p> The hardest thing there is to…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:836372012-02-02T18:26:13.624ZJoe Foxhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoeFox
<p>The hardest thing there is to do, is tell someone the repair exceeds the value of the instrument.</p>
<p>It's a sad thing usually.</p>
<p>Hard for me anyway.</p>
<p>Apparently there are some hard hearted luthiers around.</p>
<p>The hardest thing there is to do, is tell someone the repair exceeds the value of the instrument.</p>
<p>It's a sad thing usually.</p>
<p>Hard for me anyway.</p>
<p>Apparently there are some hard hearted luthiers around.</p> Well, looks I touched a nerve…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:836362012-02-02T18:17:23.214ZJoe Foxhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoeFox
<p>Well, looks I touched a nerve or something.</p>
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<p>Rusty, what I meant was, the "Trade Secrets" newsletter is littered with repair "techniques" that are designed to include Stew Mac tools.</p>
<p>If you read between the lines you can usually pick out the "technique" even buried underneath all that marketing.</p>
<p>And Grahame's question is tangled up in this as well.</p>
<p>Dan's articles are the most littered with marketing of them all.</p>
<p>Now, you will say, "marketing is not…</p>
<p>Well, looks I touched a nerve or something.</p>
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<p>Rusty, what I meant was, the "Trade Secrets" newsletter is littered with repair "techniques" that are designed to include Stew Mac tools.</p>
<p>If you read between the lines you can usually pick out the "technique" even buried underneath all that marketing.</p>
<p>And Grahame's question is tangled up in this as well.</p>
<p>Dan's articles are the most littered with marketing of them all.</p>
<p>Now, you will say, "marketing is not bad" and "thank goodness for StewMac" but I say that if they are inventing techniques to sell tools then they are doing you NO FAVORS by doing so.</p>
<p>I, personally did NOT learn everything I know from StewMac.</p>
<p>If it were not StewMac it would be someone else, The Niche would not remain unfilled for long.</p>
<p>You don't have to read between the lines if you don't want to.</p>
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<p>As far as going broke or not.</p>
<p>I will go to my grave without a penny to my name if it means the difference between being 100% fair and NOT!</p>
<p>I've been in construction for 34 years and have contracted with many, many other parties and I've almost always been 100% fair. And those cases where I wasn't, I lost just to make sure!</p>
<p>I believe that music is the salvation of us all. If I can help this process at all, I will do so. Granted I am not so helpful, but i do what I can when I can.</p>
<p>I do local students repairs for free because they can't afford it and usually they have NO idea how much a repair costs. I also barter when I can.</p>
<p>If you are Making a really good living at this, then great!</p>
<p>I will continue to Hoe my Own Row</p>
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<p>I left out some stuff about marketing to avoid offending the thin skinned</p> I use west epoxy too. I may…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:835672012-02-02T01:28:52.397ZChristian Johnsonhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ChristianJohnson
<p>I use west epoxy too. I may just do that.</p>
<p>I use west epoxy too. I may just do that.</p> Thanks, everyone, great ideas…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:835652012-02-02T01:26:12.859ZChristian Johnsonhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ChristianJohnson
<p>Thanks, everyone, great ideas but....this kid's about 20, and I think he said it's his uncle's guitar he's borrowing. I could do an extensive repair, but I know he can't afford it, and I don't short change myself. I got bills. So, he's coming in, I'll educate him on the issue and options, and see where we go. Personally, I don't think a 90's strat justifies a $500 repair. Just sayin'. It needs a refret as well.</p>
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<p>Nice work, Nathan, BTW</p>
<p>Thanks, everyone, great ideas but....this kid's about 20, and I think he said it's his uncle's guitar he's borrowing. I could do an extensive repair, but I know he can't afford it, and I don't short change myself. I got bills. So, he's coming in, I'll educate him on the issue and options, and see where we go. Personally, I don't think a 90's strat justifies a $500 repair. Just sayin'. It needs a refret as well.</p>
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<p>Nice work, Nathan, BTW</p> Adding to Rusty's thoughts. I…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:838422012-02-02T01:23:41.070ZThomas Jameshttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ThomasJames
<p>Adding to Rusty's thoughts. I wonder how many 'free' hours Dan has spent teaching? Probably more than your average bear. I met him at the GAL convention in Tacoma, and he was just great. The scripted videos don't do him justice.</p>
<p>Paul's posts always ring true to me. The best stuff around.</p>
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<p>Adding to Rusty's thoughts. I wonder how many 'free' hours Dan has spent teaching? Probably more than your average bear. I met him at the GAL convention in Tacoma, and he was just great. The scripted videos don't do him justice.</p>
<p>Paul's posts always ring true to me. The best stuff around.</p>
<p></p> Rusty,
Thanks for bring that…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:837402012-02-02T01:22:53.437ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>Thanks for bring that issue up (give-away's) so I could expand/explain my POV.</p>
<p>I agree with you that we shouldn't give away valuable services a/k/a: bread & butter jobs. I "give away" things like checking tuner machine screws & button tension when I'm doing a string change, a simple but good cleaning of the body & neck when a guitar is in for other service, and other minor "2 minute" things like that. My extras are rarely even recognized by the customer but…</p>
<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>Thanks for bring that issue up (give-away's) so I could expand/explain my POV.</p>
<p>I agree with you that we shouldn't give away valuable services a/k/a: bread & butter jobs. I "give away" things like checking tuner machine screws & button tension when I'm doing a string change, a simple but good cleaning of the body & neck when a guitar is in for other service, and other minor "2 minute" things like that. My extras are rarely even recognized by the customer but it makes me feel good. It's really just a "return it in better shape than when it came in" philosophy that I embrace.</p>
<p>Re: Stew-Mac--- I agree. If it weren't for Stew-Mac, we'd all still be living in the dark ages of guitar repair. Even if they stopped selling tools, their informational contribution to the craft would remain unparalleled, especially to the novice and casual repairperson who are not members of professional guilds & organizations. If nothing else, they provide up-to-date & modern solutions which were developed after all the 'classic' repair books were authored/published.</p>
<p>Have a great week my friend(:,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p></p> Joe,
I agree with Grahame her…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:836252012-02-02T00:29:06.616ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I agree with Grahame here, The people at STEWMAC have put more useful and free information out there than any other business I can name and the information forms the basis for a lot of standardised repairs in our industry as does (did) their books "Trade Secrets" and the seminal 'Guitar player repair guide". I strongly respect these enterprises for their contributions to the industry and the way that they have taken guitar repair out of the dark ages and hammer and chisel…</p>
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I agree with Grahame here, The people at STEWMAC have put more useful and free information out there than any other business I can name and the information forms the basis for a lot of standardised repairs in our industry as does (did) their books "Trade Secrets" and the seminal 'Guitar player repair guide". I strongly respect these enterprises for their contributions to the industry and the way that they have taken guitar repair out of the dark ages and hammer and chisel approach to fine work. </p>
<p>Similarly, I question complaining about a business and staff that wants to sell things, that's their job - STEWMAC sells tools and supplies and supports the industry by stocking and selling tools and providing instructions as to how to use said stuff. Large inventories and low volume specialist items means stuff costs - but, their shipping is some of the best rates about - why beef about it? </p>
<p>Apropos and delicately put: If you wish to go broke because you "give away" your work and labor it's not anybodies problem but yours. One of the bigger problems holding back luthiery from becoming recognised as a valid trade and charging accordingly is the transition from amateur to professional status we all suffer when making the decision to take the job on full time - like going from apprentice to master. Respectfully put to my colleagues: amateurs can do as they wish, it's a free world, but the people who have to make rent and feed and educate their families from this trade must deal with the reality of the marketplace. </p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with being paid for ones labor and expertise: quality hand and machine work is a noble and rewarding enterprise. There is a lot wrong with customers who don't want to, or have to, pay for good quality work. </p>
<p> Rusty.</p> This was a common problem in…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2012-02-02:2177249:Comment:836232012-02-02T00:22:43.978ZJohnhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/John631
<div><p>This was a common problem in the 80's an angled humbucker routed too close to the newly installed treble Floyd post would start to lean into the pickup cavity. If you clamp the guitar body you can go straight to a Forstner bit and then use a corresponding plug cutter to fill it in. You can choose the type of wood and the grain orientation with a plug cutter. I get mine from Lee Valley they have lots of sizes. Store bought dowels are rarely the size they say they are and the grain runs…</p>
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<div><p>This was a common problem in the 80's an angled humbucker routed too close to the newly installed treble Floyd post would start to lean into the pickup cavity. If you clamp the guitar body you can go straight to a Forstner bit and then use a corresponding plug cutter to fill it in. You can choose the type of wood and the grain orientation with a plug cutter. I get mine from Lee Valley they have lots of sizes. Store bought dowels are rarely the size they say they are and the grain runs the wrong way. Epoxy or TItebond will work and sometimes a little trimming with a chisel is required. </p>
<p>John</p>
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