Yet another (seems unique): 2nd fret only D-String buzz.... - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T07:22:50Zhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/yet-another-2nd-fret-d-string-buzz?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A283487&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Rusty., That was in…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2022-01-14:2177249:Comment:2834872022-01-14T09:45:23.769ZErnie Piperhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ErniePiper
<p>Thank you Rusty., That was interesting reading. And I do agree with you both of your thoughts. Hopefully I can have a local luthier look at it next week.</p>
<p>Ernie</p>
<p>P.S. This instrument is very "Alive" in that it really resonates and vibrates to the point that you can really feel it. (I like that). But I noticed/observed/was surprised at how much vibration there was when playing E on 4th string; especially in the area of the nut and headstock.....</p>
<p>Thank you Rusty., That was interesting reading. And I do agree with you both of your thoughts. Hopefully I can have a local luthier look at it next week.</p>
<p>Ernie</p>
<p>P.S. This instrument is very "Alive" in that it really resonates and vibrates to the point that you can really feel it. (I like that). But I noticed/observed/was surprised at how much vibration there was when playing E on 4th string; especially in the area of the nut and headstock.....</p> Hi Ernie,
What Paul said. I s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2022-01-13:2177249:Comment:2833972022-01-13T21:48:07.312ZRussell Vancehttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>Hi Ernie,</p>
<p><strong>What Paul said</strong>. I started out using "The Big Buzz List" many years ago (dont know it it still exists but it was on Frets.com I recall) and found that even with that exhaustive list I still had the occasional instrument that stumped me. So it was back to glue in the frets and fret level and recrown, dress nut and saddle/saddle slot with new strings before even starting. </p>
<p>Second thing: in a previous life I trained operators in the military to…</p>
<p>Hi Ernie,</p>
<p><strong>What Paul said</strong>. I started out using "The Big Buzz List" many years ago (dont know it it still exists but it was on Frets.com I recall) and found that even with that exhaustive list I still had the occasional instrument that stumped me. So it was back to glue in the frets and fret level and recrown, dress nut and saddle/saddle slot with new strings before even starting. </p>
<p>Second thing: in a previous life I trained operators in the military to recognize acoustic/sonic events while doing acoustic analysis with advance processors. The brain can be trained to recognize discrete sounds (for want of a better short description) and then store these events with a priority list for future use. This recall will be instantaneous and have a "flag" and will also have an acuity above normal listening. Best described for the layman as to why we can hear the first note or two, or a chord of a tune and the brain recognizes it immediately even if its 20 years since we heard that tune. </p>
<p>So, even if you fix this annoying buzz, your brain will target/bracket even the faintest residual of this buzz and give it to you on a plate. You have trained your brain to hear this and you will have it for life. Better you ask someone who has not been listening for a year to make a judgement as to whether the repaired instrument is within limits. </p>
<p>This also accounts for that problem of a customer who can hear things that you can't even after you have fixed the problem.</p>
<p>These are things that are not commonly understood, but they are things nevertheless.</p>
<p>Regards, Rusty. </p> Thank you for your thoughts a…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2022-01-13:2177249:Comment:2833932022-01-13T09:43:09.714ZErnie Piperhttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ErniePiper
<p>Thank you for your thoughts and reply. I have contacted a local luthier who is willing to have a look soon. I was hoping (for a good part of a year now) that I could figure this out. </p>
<p><br/>Erine</p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughts and reply. I have contacted a local luthier who is willing to have a look soon. I was hoping (for a good part of a year now) that I could figure this out. </p>
<p><br/>Erine</p> Hi Ernie.
If you’re the origi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2022-01-13:2177249:Comment:2833902022-01-13T04:53:19.527ZPaul Verticchiohttp://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
Hi Ernie.<br />
If you’re the original owner of the instrument, I encourage you to seek a warranty claim on this issue.<br />
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Alternatively, 90% of guitars, regardless of manufacturer or price, benefit from a professional setup by a knowledgeable and experienced technician who is familiar with the idiosyncrasies of nylon string guitars.<br />
<br />
I’d suggest, at minimum, a fret level, recrowning and polish along with the attendant adjustments of the nut saddle and a fresh set of strings.<br />
<br />
Also of significant…
Hi Ernie.<br />
If you’re the original owner of the instrument, I encourage you to seek a warranty claim on this issue.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, 90% of guitars, regardless of manufacturer or price, benefit from a professional setup by a knowledgeable and experienced technician who is familiar with the idiosyncrasies of nylon string guitars.<br />
<br />
I’d suggest, at minimum, a fret level, recrowning and polish along with the attendant adjustments of the nut saddle and a fresh set of strings.<br />
<br />
Also of significant importance is to double check that all frets are properly seated in their respective slots.<br />
<br />
Without having eyes on the instrument, my initial thoughts suspect irregular symmetry of fret crowning, especially if it’s a factory built instrument.<br />
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I’d also pay serious attention to the geometry of the saddle’s top as it establishes the “take off point” for everything that happens between the saddle and the nut.<br />
<br />
Good luck in conquering and eliminating the problem.<br />
<br />
Please let us know the outcome.<br />
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Be well and positive,<br />
Paul