I2 string arch tops.....Why don't I see any....Can a 6 string stand the conversion ?......Discuss... - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T02:12:21Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/i2-string-arch-tops-why-don-t-i-see-any-can-a-6-string-stand-the?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A132855&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEpiphone recording C, D, and…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2015-10-01:2177249:Comment:1509412015-10-01T11:43:45.935ZPunto Bawonohttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PuntoBawono
<p>Epiphone recording C, D, and E do have carved archtop and fixated bridge. they do sound terrific btw :-)</p>
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<p>Epiphone recording C, D, and E do have carved archtop and fixated bridge. they do sound terrific btw :-)</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBEkY6R5wFQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBEkY6R5wFQ</a></p> One factor no one has mention…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-21:2177249:Comment:1331842014-05-21T16:09:05.522ZPaul Verticchiohttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulVerticchio
<p>One factor no one has mentioned (as to why you don't see any PRODUCTION 12 string arch tops)....</p>
<p>Generally, players of upper end arch top guitars do not (as a consumer group) desire 12 strings instruments.</p>
<p>If there was a "want and need" for these instruments, some company would have developed an instrument to fill that demand.</p>
<p>This is a case of "WHY" having nothing to do with the technical merits of the instrument style, but instead it's a case of no market niche to…</p>
<p>One factor no one has mentioned (as to why you don't see any PRODUCTION 12 string arch tops)....</p>
<p>Generally, players of upper end arch top guitars do not (as a consumer group) desire 12 strings instruments.</p>
<p>If there was a "want and need" for these instruments, some company would have developed an instrument to fill that demand.</p>
<p>This is a case of "WHY" having nothing to do with the technical merits of the instrument style, but instead it's a case of no market niche to fill. Of course, there will be one-off exceptions but that's EXACTLY what small shop/custom builders are for :)</p> Not a real answer to your que…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-21:2177249:Comment:1327812014-05-21T07:02:12.200ZJelle van Tilburghttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JellevanTilburg
<p>Not a real answer to your question (about the conversion). </p>
<p>But I came across this fine example of a 12 string archtop (1990 D'Aquisto Excel-12):</p>
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<p>The guitar was restored by Matt D'Ambrosio, check the man out! <a href="http://www.dambrosioguitars.com/resto_DAquisto.php" target="_blank">http://www.dambrosioguitars.com/resto_DAquisto.php</a></p>
<p>Not a real answer to your question (about the conversion). </p>
<p>But I came across this fine example of a 12 string archtop (1990 D'Aquisto Excel-12):</p>
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<p>The guitar was restored by Matt D'Ambrosio, check the man out! <a href="http://www.dambrosioguitars.com/resto_DAquisto.php" target="_blank">http://www.dambrosioguitars.com/resto_DAquisto.php</a></p> …tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-20:2177249:Comment:1327782014-05-20T22:02:53.372ZFrank Fordhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/FrankFord
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<p>Here's a small squadron of early Gibson fixed bridge arch tops, cribbed from Robert Corwin's fine site, <a href="http://www.earlygibson.com" target="_blank">www.earlygibson.com</a> - - -</p>
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<p>Of course, unlike converting a modern arch top, these instruments were designed that way. . .</p> Frank
I never heard of fixat…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2014-05-20:2177249:Comment:1328552014-05-20T21:50:09.644ZRon frazierhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/Ronfrazier403
Frank<br />
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I never heard of fixated bridge arch top.<br />
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What a idea!,<br />
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I have a bunch of those old Kay's<br />
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I never heard of fixated bridge arch top.<br />
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What a idea!,<br />
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I have a bunch of those old Kay's<br />
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Ron An archtop guitar with a tail…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-11-07:2177249:Comment:765712011-11-07T06:04:31.234ZFrank Fordhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/FrankFord
An archtop guitar with a tailpiece has much less sustain than a flat top guitar or archtop with a fixed bridge and no tailpiece. As a result, archtop 12-strings are disappointing to most players.
An archtop guitar with a tailpiece has much less sustain than a flat top guitar or archtop with a fixed bridge and no tailpiece. As a result, archtop 12-strings are disappointing to most players. I had one, actually - sorta.…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-11-07:2177249:Comment:765682011-11-07T03:54:54.270ZMark Pollockhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MarkPollock
<p>I had one, actually - sorta. It was a Global, made in Germany, with a plywood arch top and a single soundhole. I think the top was easily 1/8 inch thick, and I could probably stand on it without crushing it. Nice thick top. Yessiree. No structural problems there. It also sounded like a solidbody - a tinny sound with no volume or projection.</p>
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<p>So, maybe they don't make many because they sound terrible. That's at least my experience.</p>
<p>I had one, actually - sorta. It was a Global, made in Germany, with a plywood arch top and a single soundhole. I think the top was easily 1/8 inch thick, and I could probably stand on it without crushing it. Nice thick top. Yessiree. No structural problems there. It also sounded like a solidbody - a tinny sound with no volume or projection.</p>
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<p>So, maybe they don't make many because they sound terrible. That's at least my experience.</p> The old Harmony truss rod is…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-11-06:2177249:Comment:766552011-11-06T20:02:09.463ZJosh Fullerhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JoshFuller
<p>The old Harmony truss rod is almost exactly the same size as a Stew Mac Hotrod-just extend the slot out for adjustment, and widen it ever so slightly. The original flat rods do tend to bend over time. </p>
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<p>The old Harmony truss rod is almost exactly the same size as a Stew Mac Hotrod-just extend the slot out for adjustment, and widen it ever so slightly. The original flat rods do tend to bend over time. </p>
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<p> </p> You could do the Nashville hi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-11-06:2177249:Comment:766532011-11-06T19:18:33.775ZJohnhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/John631
<p>You could do the Nashville high strung tuning on an archtop and then make sure you have a friend to play a regular 6 string. The issue then becomes logistical rather than structural.</p>
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<p>Kidding aside the old Harmony archtops with the neck straightened and secured would be able to take the tension.Is there enough depth in the headstock to do a Rickenbacker style tuner arrangement?</p>
<p>You could do the Nashville high strung tuning on an archtop and then make sure you have a friend to play a regular 6 string. The issue then becomes logistical rather than structural.</p>
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<p>Kidding aside the old Harmony archtops with the neck straightened and secured would be able to take the tension.Is there enough depth in the headstock to do a Rickenbacker style tuner arrangement?</p> That's my plan... there are s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-11-06:2177249:Comment:766472011-11-06T15:04:32.700Zthefishinmusicianhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/thefishinmusician
That's my plan... there are some Kays , Silvertones , and Harmony's with large enough peg heads...
That's my plan... there are some Kays , Silvertones , and Harmony's with large enough peg heads...