Maple fretboard's finish comming of, yelp! - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T15:28:04Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/maple-fretboard-s-finish-comming-of-yelp?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A101288&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPhew.... what a quest.... lea…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-27:2177249:Comment:1012882013-01-27T20:12:44.742ZSilverbursthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikePtacek
<p>Phew.... what a quest.... learned already a lot of things on the way, as well as here on the forum.</p>
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<p>If I'm finished and happy with the result, I'm going to post a little post mortem.</p>
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<p>So far a pain in the *: The existing finish is ridiculously thin! Adding some poly on a spot, np, but when sanding is flat, sanding trough the esisting poly around the spot is extremely easy... So getting everything level is a royal pain.</p>
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<p>So far, the brownish poly I…</p>
<p>Phew.... what a quest.... learned already a lot of things on the way, as well as here on the forum.</p>
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<p>If I'm finished and happy with the result, I'm going to post a little post mortem.</p>
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<p>So far a pain in the *: The existing finish is ridiculously thin! Adding some poly on a spot, np, but when sanding is flat, sanding trough the esisting poly around the spot is extremely easy... So getting everything level is a royal pain.</p>
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<p>So far, the brownish poly I got seems to match fine colorwise. Also found out that poly retouch is not the easiest thing since poly finish do not dissolve anymore.</p>
<p>on with the quest.</p> Thx Rusty,
Indeed, I have the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-21:2177249:Comment:1007592013-01-21T17:49:08.381ZSilverbursthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikePtacek
<p>Thx Rusty,</p>
<p>Indeed, I have the Guitar player repair guide, great info ! but this specific issue on finish on maple necks is not discussed. Got some feedback from Dan himself, pretty cool, but since he is really bussy is were quick answers as well. But appreciate it a lot!</p>
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<p>I have this beaten up squiere telecaster that I can use to experiment. Odd thing is the finish on that maple board does not come of, even with the craziest of tapes. But I'm gonna sand the little part…</p>
<p>Thx Rusty,</p>
<p>Indeed, I have the Guitar player repair guide, great info ! but this specific issue on finish on maple necks is not discussed. Got some feedback from Dan himself, pretty cool, but since he is really bussy is were quick answers as well. But appreciate it a lot!</p>
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<p>I have this beaten up squiere telecaster that I can use to experiment. Odd thing is the finish on that maple board does not come of, even with the craziest of tapes. But I'm gonna sand the little part after the 22th fret and see if I can finish that back to stock quality first.</p>
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<p>"Stabilizing the exsiting layer with superglue" Do you mean applying supperglue to the cracky edge of the remaining poly so that that "border" is sealed and fixed ? If I look closely I can see that the first mm of that cracky edge is detachec from the wood. If I pinch my nail against it, it will probable chip of that easy.</p>
<p>I keep asking questions... ;) thing is I just love to work on guitars... i just forget time and place when I'm doing that.</p> that is indeed golden advice…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-18:2177249:Comment:1005502013-01-18T13:50:07.159ZSilverbursthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikePtacek
that is indeed golden advice nr 1. Doing anything with finishing, do not hurry. although I know, I still tend to be impatient about it like letting stuff dry, light coats at a time in stead of one thick coat....
that is indeed golden advice nr 1. Doing anything with finishing, do not hurry. although I know, I still tend to be impatient about it like letting stuff dry, light coats at a time in stead of one thick coat.... Good one , Robert!
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<p>Good one , Robert!</p>
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<p>Good one , Robert!</p>
<p></p> To me, that is what it is all…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-17:2177249:Comment:1007282013-01-17T16:50:10.015ZNed Knepphttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
<p>To me, that is what it is all about. I keep learning new things. I haven't had to throw anything out yet and I often learn more from my mistakes than anything else. It's do-able, just don't get into a hurry.</p>
<p>To me, that is what it is all about. I keep learning new things. I haven't had to throw anything out yet and I often learn more from my mistakes than anything else. It's do-able, just don't get into a hurry.</p> true. Tried to refinish a com…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-17:2177249:Comment:1008082013-01-17T12:05:32.803ZSilverbursthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikePtacek
true. Tried to refinish a complete body once... uhm also just different tools you need. Hope I can fix this little emergency case, should be do-able with some decent research and common sense. (Un)fortunately when doing some technical interventions like fretwork, you learn a few extra things.
true. Tried to refinish a complete body once... uhm also just different tools you need. Hope I can fix this little emergency case, should be do-able with some decent research and common sense. (Un)fortunately when doing some technical interventions like fretwork, you learn a few extra things. Just my own 2 cents but I in…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-17:2177249:Comment:1006262013-01-17T07:01:52.738ZNed Knepphttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
<p>Just my own 2 cents but I in my opinion, being able to fix or build a guitar is a completely different skill set than finishing it. I've seen quite a few well built or repaired instruments with bad finishes. I've know several wood crafters that jobbed out their finish work because they could do beautiful wood work but couldn't get a finish right to save them. It's just a different skill set that is often not taken into consideration when a project is undertaken..</p>
<p>Just my own 2 cents but I in my opinion, being able to fix or build a guitar is a completely different skill set than finishing it. I've seen quite a few well built or repaired instruments with bad finishes. I've know several wood crafters that jobbed out their finish work because they could do beautiful wood work but couldn't get a finish right to save them. It's just a different skill set that is often not taken into consideration when a project is undertaken..</p> "Only use superglue if I deci…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-17:2177249:Comment:1006232013-01-17T01:42:16.927ZRussell Vancehttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RussellVance
<p>"Only use superglue if I decide not to remove the damaged lacquer from fret to fret right or am I wrong ? Can I just apply nitro or polyurethane lacquer on the bare wood ?"</p>
<p>Use superglue to stabilize the existing lacquer, lightly sand flat and then apply lacquer over a clean secure surface (a lot of thin coats is better than a few thick ones, sand the lacquer flat and buff. Otherwize, clean all the lacquer from the surface and wipe down the surface with acetone or thinners (being…</p>
<p>"Only use superglue if I decide not to remove the damaged lacquer from fret to fret right or am I wrong ? Can I just apply nitro or polyurethane lacquer on the bare wood ?"</p>
<p>Use superglue to stabilize the existing lacquer, lightly sand flat and then apply lacquer over a clean secure surface (a lot of thin coats is better than a few thick ones, sand the lacquer flat and buff. Otherwize, clean all the lacquer from the surface and wipe down the surface with acetone or thinners (being careful to not let it get on the existing lacquer (if it is nitro - poly doesn't react to thinners)) and then spray lacquer.</p>
<p>However, this is information just to keep you safe - refinishing and refurbishing guitar finishes is not a simple job and requires some reading and some skills - the medium to long term integrity and appearance of your work is where the skill lies. </p>
<p>Now, without being overly schoolteacherish: Stewmac (and others)have authoritative and useful DVDs on repair and refinishing guitars - the minimum requirement before even touching another guitar is to watch these, practice your skills on scrap guitars and then watch them again. They also have an excellent book detailing guitar repair (Guitar Player Repair Guide) which will save you a lifetime of mistakes and wasted time.</p>
<p>I have no affilliation with Stewmac other than the knowledge that what they say works. This is different from most of the well intentioned crap that is spruiked around the kids forums - the DVDs and books may seem an expense - they are, but the price of mistakes or sub-standard work is so much higher. </p>
<p>There is no other way to do this job other than to become knowledgeable and skillful - guitar repair is not intuitive and we are not born with the skills required. Spend the money to learn and you will enjoy yourself make money in return. This I do know.</p>
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<p>Rusty.</p> I forget. Another way to use…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-17:2177249:Comment:1006212013-01-17T00:11:27.837ZRobert Mayhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobertMay
<p>I forget. Another way to use a home-made fret-board guard (if it's long enough) is to use a spring clamp to pinch it firmly around the neck. Attached pic.</p>
<p>I forget. Another way to use a home-made fret-board guard (if it's long enough) is to use a spring clamp to pinch it firmly around the neck. Attached pic.</p> Thanks for the input rusty! W…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-01-16:2177249:Comment:1008012013-01-16T15:59:39.219ZSilverbursthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikePtacek
<p>Thanks for the input rusty! Well I have a compressor, it is a smaller one so maybe not fit for bigger things but it should be okay for small things, so one of these days I'm going to buy a simple spray gun indeed.</p>
<p>Good point to avoid scraping. But since the tape did a great job of its own ... even with just my fingernail it comes off.</p>
<p>Only use superglue if I decide not to remove the damaged lacquer from fret to fret right or am I wrong ? Can I just apply nitro or polyurethane…</p>
<p>Thanks for the input rusty! Well I have a compressor, it is a smaller one so maybe not fit for bigger things but it should be okay for small things, so one of these days I'm going to buy a simple spray gun indeed.</p>
<p>Good point to avoid scraping. But since the tape did a great job of its own ... even with just my fingernail it comes off.</p>
<p>Only use superglue if I decide not to remove the damaged lacquer from fret to fret right or am I wrong ? Can I just apply nitro or polyurethane lacquer on the bare wood ?</p>
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<p>I think I did a good job on the frets, it is much more comfortable along the sides of the fretboard, it was that sharp one could cut his hands with fast playing. I absolutely need to fix this, can't bring that guitat back to my friend with that lacquer damage, silly or almost unavoidable as it might have been. Learned a lot again, as on any guitar ... you always learn something on the way. Sometimes not so funny indeed.</p>