Oh the Humanity!!! Nashville Flood survivors. - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T11:33:46Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/oh-the-humanity-nashville-flood-survivors?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A120142&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBob...what's the latest? Were…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-10-18:2177249:Comment:1201422013-10-18T21:27:56.929ZRobbie Collinshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Bob...what's the latest? Were you able to reuse the tops?</p>
<p>Bob...what's the latest? Were you able to reuse the tops?</p> stripes that are running diag…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-21:2177249:Comment:1158702013-08-21T09:56:15.754ZPaul Younghttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PaulYoung
<blockquote><p>stripes that are running diagonal to the grain. and by the selector switch hole and in between the pickup pockets. These areas are the most damaged and where the water stain re appears. The dark spot just below the bridge PU pocket is just a shadow in the image.</p>
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<p>I have never seen flame maple that didn't have stripes going diagonal to the grain. The lines do look more emphasized when they do not have a finish on them, especially with liquids poured on them. …</p>
<blockquote><p>stripes that are running diagonal to the grain. and by the selector switch hole and in between the pickup pockets. These areas are the most damaged and where the water stain re appears. The dark spot just below the bridge PU pocket is just a shadow in the image.</p>
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<p>I have never seen flame maple that didn't have stripes going diagonal to the grain. The lines do look more emphasized when they do not have a finish on them, especially with liquids poured on them. The earlier pictures looked nicer than the later 'processed' pictures. Hell I have a few flame maple guitars around and these unfinished flood survivors look much better.</p>
<p>The selector switch is covered when the poker-chip-rhythm-treble-ring-thing is installed. I wouldn't worry too much what's around where any of the hardware goes, it will likely get abused anyways in those areas, if these guitars see heavy use.</p>
<p>Please please please don't bleach the hell out of these!!!</p>
<p>LESS IS MORE!!!</p>
<p>I would worry more about what color to stain them, or just leave them natural! 59 pearly gates? Anything will look incredible on those tops!</p>
<p>Both of these tops look AMAZING AS IS!! Please for the love of god stop here and just finish them!</p> I like that idea too. Celebra…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-19:2177249:Comment:1156702013-08-19T00:15:46.294ZThomas Jameshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ThomasJames
<p>I like that idea too. Celebrate their heritage. Leave the scars! LP Flooded.</p>
<p>I like that idea too. Celebrate their heritage. Leave the scars! LP Flooded.</p> I agree, they earned those st…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1159142013-08-18T23:57:52.001ZSteve Williamshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/SteveWilliams53
<p>I agree, they earned those stains. Clear-coat them would be very cool.</p>
<p>I agree, they earned those stains. Clear-coat them would be very cool.</p> Robbie, Kerry, Mike..
Robbie…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1157432013-08-18T22:14:37.943ZBob H Abernathy IIIhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/BobHAbernathyIII
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<p>Robbie! I can't thank you enough for posting the drawings...Excellent resource and huge benefit to everyone here. Super cool share bro! </p>
<p>Kerry! Primarily I would like these to be a demonstration that the instruments that were damaged in the floods still have potential to be good instruments if cared for properly...And discarding the maple entirely would no longer allow this project to display that idea entirely. Maybe that's a bit stubborn but it…</p>
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<p>Robbie! I can't thank you enough for posting the drawings...Excellent resource and huge benefit to everyone here. Super cool share bro! </p>
<p>Kerry! Primarily I would like these to be a demonstration that the instruments that were damaged in the floods still have potential to be good instruments if cared for properly...And discarding the maple entirely would no longer allow this project to display that idea entirely. Maybe that's a bit stubborn but it was my initial goal. But i do have some great maple i intended for my own builds that would make these absolutely stunning so you've got me thinking....</p>
<p>Mike! you make a very good point. Although Let's say that i continue with the bleaching which every time i do that i have to clamp all pieces to a very flat piece of stainless steel to keep them from warping any and even after i leave them there for a day or more they tend to be in a different shape than they were previously....also if the more vigorous bleaching products require me to sand a lot more...i am running the chance of changing the dimensions/graduations of the top...it would suck to have the bridge post inserts sticking out of the top even if it was a minor amount...if i wanted to get those posts back below the level of the top...i would be required to drill deeper....then i have a lower max height for bridge position and could be pushing my tolerances with the current neck angle...once again i may be being a little to paranoid...But leaving the stains there has crossed my mind....I'm just not sure..i want these to be owned by players who love to play them...the last thing i want to hear is " Feel's great...sounds great...but these looks...?" you know? and like i said before i may be able to hide the stains a bit if i got creative with some dye work..</p>
<p>Regardless of my ambivalence every ones suggestions and input are greatly appreciated! Keep em coming! </p>
<p>Today is my Building and Repairing "Shabbat" haha...I usually just play tunes and mess with amps and recording on Sundays so no updates...Classes start this week so i will probably be a few day's before i get back to you...but that will give me time to decide on the Hydroxide/hydrogen product over the next 24 hours..but i WILL have a Decision by then...</p>
<p>Much love fellas! Thanks FRANK FORD for supplying us with such a great opportunity for community here at FRETS.NET</p>
<p>Talk to ya'll soon!</p>
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<p></p> Kerry...The posted selection…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1159092013-08-18T17:36:50.615ZRobbie Collinshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Kerry...The posted selection of tops on the Bartlett site has dwindled over the last couple of years. Maybe he's not updating it? The price is a drop-down under shipping...US and Canada $335.</p>
<p>I sent Tom Bartlett an email asking him to join the thread.</p>
<p>If you aren't familiar with the luthier section of the mylespaul.com forum, check out his recreation of a '59 Les Paul:…</p>
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<p>Kerry...The posted selection of tops on the Bartlett site has dwindled over the last couple of years. Maybe he's not updating it? The price is a drop-down under shipping...US and Canada $335.</p>
<p>I sent Tom Bartlett an email asking him to join the thread.</p>
<p>If you aren't familiar with the luthier section of the mylespaul.com forum, check out his recreation of a '59 Les Paul:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/123788-mlp-bartlett-build.html" target="_blank">http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/123788-mlp-bartlett-build.html</a></p>
<p>Since you liked the contour maps, here are more LP drawings I've gathered.</p> I dunno... after all's said &…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1158162013-08-18T17:25:27.833ZMike Kolbhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>I dunno... after all's said & done with the efforts to sand, wash, bleach and "de-flood" the tops, I'd be sorely tempted to make them look as nice as you can (bleached, sanded, etc) refinish them in the clear-coat of choice...and then leave them alone.</p>
<p>Sure, they'll bear the marks of being ravaged in the flood, but there's something cool about that! They're real survivors with the all of the scars and marks to prove it. </p>
<p>I dunno... after all's said & done with the efforts to sand, wash, bleach and "de-flood" the tops, I'd be sorely tempted to make them look as nice as you can (bleached, sanded, etc) refinish them in the clear-coat of choice...and then leave them alone.</p>
<p>Sure, they'll bear the marks of being ravaged in the flood, but there's something cool about that! They're real survivors with the all of the scars and marks to prove it. </p> Robbie,I was just looking at…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1159072013-08-18T16:44:19.451ZKerry Krishnahttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p> Robbie,I was just looking at the Bartlett site, I did not see a single one that was book matched, BUT there were some amazing looking tops. Are they expensive?</p>
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<p>And I LOVED the Contour maps! Man, This Forum Rocks sometimes! </p>
<p> Robbie,I was just looking at the Bartlett site, I did not see a single one that was book matched, BUT there were some amazing looking tops. Are they expensive?</p>
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<p>And I LOVED the Contour maps! Man, This Forum Rocks sometimes! </p> Good question, Kerry. Bob...a…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1158942013-08-18T05:29:31.062ZRobbie Collinshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Good question, Kerry. Bob...are your familiar with Tom Bartlett tops?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bartlettwoodworking.com/AAAAA.html" target="_blank">http://www.bartlettwoodworking.com/AAAAA.html</a></p>
<p>You could recycle the old tops by making smaller bodied LPs like the Zemaitis. I'm guessing that if the book-matched pieces were joined as is that they might be narrower in the waist like a Z.</p>
<p>Here are some contour drawings for you.</p>
<p>Good question, Kerry. Bob...are your familiar with Tom Bartlett tops?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bartlettwoodworking.com/AAAAA.html" target="_blank">http://www.bartlettwoodworking.com/AAAAA.html</a></p>
<p>You could recycle the old tops by making smaller bodied LPs like the Zemaitis. I'm guessing that if the book-matched pieces were joined as is that they might be narrower in the waist like a Z.</p>
<p>Here are some contour drawings for you.</p> Bob, can I ask: Why are you…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-08-18:2177249:Comment:1157262013-08-18T03:41:13.672ZKerry Krishnahttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/KerryKrishna
<p> Bob, can I ask: Why are you not just re-capping them? Maple caps are readily available, and not all that hard to make yourself... </p>
<p> Bob, can I ask: Why are you not just re-capping them? Maple caps are readily available, and not all that hard to make yourself... </p>