Ovation's Back bowl repair - FRETS.NET2024-03-28T12:45:57Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/ovation-s-back-bowl-repair?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A161220&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHello againI talked with the…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-23:2177249:Comment:1610802016-06-23T10:11:11.776ZManuel António Nogueira Rodriguehttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ManuelAntonioNogueiraRodrigue
<p>Hello again<br></br><br></br>I talked with the technician and here is what i got:<br></br><br></br>Use epoxy glue to bond the composite to the top binding<br></br>Mix a grey metal pigment to the epoxy resin, untill matches the color, to fill the gaps or scratches<br></br><br></br>For the cracks <br></br> first a bit of sanding around the area and apply a coat of epoxy resin and two or three layers of fiber with the adition of epoxy resin<br></br>To protect the areas not to be worked, cover with plastic, the epoxy resin won't…</p>
<p>Hello again<br/><br/>I talked with the technician and here is what i got:<br/><br/>Use epoxy glue to bond the composite to the top binding<br/>Mix a grey metal pigment to the epoxy resin, untill matches the color, to fill the gaps or scratches<br/><br/>For the cracks <br/> first a bit of sanding around the area and apply a coat of epoxy resin and two or three layers of fiber with the adition of epoxy resin<br/>To protect the areas not to be worked, cover with plastic, the epoxy resin won't glue to plastic.<br/>About the fibers<br/>carbon fibers are more rigid. therefore they are more, how can i say, fragile (?!) if subjected to forces like the pin of the guitar strip.<br/>He sugested the use of glass fiber for being more flexible and might resist better in that case.<br/><br/>And that's it my friends :)<br/><br/>Now i am going to work on the guitar, and later, perheaps i will come here again to share the final results.<br/><br/>Thank you all</p> Thank you tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-23:2177249:Comment:1612202016-06-23T07:26:27.365ZManuel António Nogueira Rodriguehttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ManuelAntonioNogueiraRodrigue
<p>Thank you <br/><br/><br/></p>
<p>Thank you <br/><br/><br/></p> The "Lyrachord" material is s…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-22:2177249:Comment:1612912016-06-22T23:53:32.385ZDoc Rathwellhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/DocRathwell
<p>The "Lyrachord" material is said to be "an omni-directional silicone cloth, bonded with aviation resins" so I imagine acquiring some <a href="http://www.silex.co.uk/products/silicone-rubber-sheet-(solid)/textured-sheet/" target="_blank">silicone rubber sheeting</a> and <a href="http://www.interturbine.com/wDeutsch/products/Huntsman.php" target="_blank">some aerospace grade resin</a> would do the trick...might be overkill but my guess is it's the closest you could get to the actual…</p>
<p>The "Lyrachord" material is said to be "an omni-directional silicone cloth, bonded with aviation resins" so I imagine acquiring some <a href="http://www.silex.co.uk/products/silicone-rubber-sheet-(solid)/textured-sheet/" target="_blank">silicone rubber sheeting</a> and <a href="http://www.interturbine.com/wDeutsch/products/Huntsman.php" target="_blank">some aerospace grade resin</a> would do the trick...might be overkill but my guess is it's the closest you could get to the actual "Lyrachord" material.</p>
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<p>Doc</p> great thinking, Charley... my…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-21:2177249:Comment:1612842016-06-21T22:09:13.181ZMike Kolbhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>great thinking, Charley... my brother's a dobro player and (as a result of many repairs & mods on his stuff) I've a pile of spider cones, etc. Thanks for the cool idea! </p>
<p>great thinking, Charley... my brother's a dobro player and (as a result of many repairs & mods on his stuff) I've a pile of spider cones, etc. Thanks for the cool idea! </p> Good luck, Manuel !tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-21:2177249:Comment:1610772016-06-21T21:30:17.694Zcharley erckhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/charleyerck
Good luck, Manuel !
Good luck, Manuel ! WellI can say for now that th…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-21:2177249:Comment:1611492016-06-21T20:37:04.042ZManuel António Nogueira Rodriguehttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ManuelAntonioNogueiraRodrigue
<p>Well<br></br><br></br>I can say for now that the enterprise answered me and by the pictures i send them:<br></br><br></br>They are sure it's epoxy resine<br></br>About the fibers not so sure, but usually <br></br>glass -> white<br></br>kevlar -> yellow<br></br>carbon -> black<br></br>So they are inclined to carbon fibers.<br></br><br></br><br></br>They sell 1 kg of epoxy resine for 25 € and 1 m2 of carbon fiber for 35€<br></br><br></br>They gave me the phone of their technician to inlight me with my questions about the methods of…</p>
<p>Well<br/><br/>I can say for now that the enterprise answered me and by the pictures i send them:<br/><br/>They are sure it's epoxy resine<br/>About the fibers not so sure, but usually <br/>glass -> white<br/>kevlar -> yellow<br/>carbon -> black<br/>So they are inclined to carbon fibers.<br/><br/><br/>They sell 1 kg of epoxy resine for 25 € and 1 m2 of carbon fiber for 35€<br/><br/>They gave me the phone of their technician to inlight me with my questions about the methods of applying the materials.<br/><br/>I guess that soon i will give you more news. :)</p> Mike, this is diverging from…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-21:2177249:Comment:1611462016-06-21T18:47:19.232Zcharley erckhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/charleyerck
Mike, this is diverging from the bowl back repair subject, but the bodies you have would be ideal<br />
to experiment with resophonic cones in a bowl back.One in spider cone and one in biscuit?<br />
Seems more productive than making more Ovations!
Mike, this is diverging from the bowl back repair subject, but the bodies you have would be ideal<br />
to experiment with resophonic cones in a bowl back.One in spider cone and one in biscuit?<br />
Seems more productive than making more Ovations! The topic reminded me of a co…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-20:2177249:Comment:1612102016-06-20T21:57:49.779ZMike Kolbhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/MikeKolb
<p>The topic reminded me of a couple of "shop relics" that have been kicking-around here. A few years back I bought these Ovation bodies on eBay, advertised as factory seconds.</p>
<p>They have minor dings and such but appear to have never been married-up to necks or had any top cut-outs done.</p>
<p>Nope, no clue what I'll ever do with them... but the proverbial "someday" always comes to mind.…</p>
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<p>The topic reminded me of a couple of "shop relics" that have been kicking-around here. A few years back I bought these Ovation bodies on eBay, advertised as factory seconds.</p>
<p>They have minor dings and such but appear to have never been married-up to necks or had any top cut-outs done.</p>
<p>Nope, no clue what I'll ever do with them... but the proverbial "someday" always comes to mind.</p>
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I have repaired some wit…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-20:2177249:Comment:1611362016-06-20T21:26:07.865ZRon Frazierhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RonFrazier
<p>mike</p>
<p>I have repaired some with super glue</p>
<p>than fibber glass or epoxy</p>
<p> If this helps I have 2 that got in the way of a husbonds head the top and sides are bad</p>
<p>I bought them for the cases</p>
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<p>Ron</p>
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<p>mike</p>
<p>I have repaired some with super glue</p>
<p>than fibber glass or epoxy</p>
<p> If this helps I have 2 that got in the way of a husbonds head the top and sides are bad</p>
<p>I bought them for the cases</p>
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<p>Ron</p>
<p></p> Thank you anyway.I am waiting…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2016-06-20:2177249:Comment:1612062016-06-20T19:25:45.113ZManuel António Nogueira Rodriguehttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/ManuelAntonioNogueiraRodrigue
<p>Thank you anyway.<br/><br/>I am waiting for an answer from a enterprise here in Portugal that is in the business of composite materials:<br/>epoxy and poliester resines, carbon and glass fibres and gel coat.<br/>Once they reply i will certainly come here to share the information.<br/><br/>Thank you</p>
<p>Thank you anyway.<br/><br/>I am waiting for an answer from a enterprise here in Portugal that is in the business of composite materials:<br/>epoxy and poliester resines, carbon and glass fibres and gel coat.<br/>Once they reply i will certainly come here to share the information.<br/><br/>Thank you</p>