re-sticking hide glue - FRETS.NET2024-03-29T09:11:12Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/resticking-hide-glue?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A59387&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks Eric , very helpful.Lentag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-10:2177249:Comment:595662011-06-10T07:28:26.310ZLen Biglinhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
Thanks Eric , very helpful.Len
Thanks Eric , very helpful.Len Also for reconstituting a hid…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-05:2177249:Comment:595022011-06-05T15:08:51.380ZEric Steven Johansenhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
Also for reconstituting a hide glue joint I like to run a bead of boiling water through the joint first and follow that with some fresh hide glue. Here's a couple more shots of the restoration in progress.
Also for reconstituting a hide glue joint I like to run a bead of boiling water through the joint first and follow that with some fresh hide glue. Here's a couple more shots of the restoration in progress. I am currently in the process…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-05:2177249:Comment:594062011-06-05T15:02:20.824ZEric Steven Johansenhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/EricStevenJohansen
I am currently in the process of just such a restoration and have many photos. The head block is part of the neck as Ned pointed out. Here are some pictures. On most of the bowlbacks I've restored there is usually some mastic filler run around the neck to body joint to clean up any gaps between the ribs and neck heal. Mix some rosewood dust with hide glue for this. Work clean and use as little as possible.
I am currently in the process of just such a restoration and have many photos. The head block is part of the neck as Ned pointed out. Here are some pictures. On most of the bowlbacks I've restored there is usually some mastic filler run around the neck to body joint to clean up any gaps between the ribs and neck heal. Mix some rosewood dust with hide glue for this. Work clean and use as little as possible. I have a bowl back mandolin …tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-04:2177249:Comment:597032011-06-04T01:05:33.320ZNed Knepphttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
<p>I have a bowl back mandolin that I disassembled for the rosewood (patch material) but I won't have time to take and post any pictures until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.</p>
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<p>In a nut shell. Think of it as extending the heel shape on into the body for about 1 to 2 inches then cut a rabbit into it so the bowl material will lay flat with the heel and you have the basic idea. There isn't really an "joint" as we usually think of a dove tail or a head block separate from the…</p>
<p>I have a bowl back mandolin that I disassembled for the rosewood (patch material) but I won't have time to take and post any pictures until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.</p>
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<p>In a nut shell. Think of it as extending the heel shape on into the body for about 1 to 2 inches then cut a rabbit into it so the bowl material will lay flat with the heel and you have the basic idea. There isn't really an "joint" as we usually think of a dove tail or a head block separate from the neck. Overall, the design makes a lighter joint than separate block and neck but it also means that any bad glue at the joint where the staves meets the neck practically guarantees that the instrument will start to fold up.</p>
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<p>I will try to get some picture tomorrow if no one else comes up with some.</p>
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<p>Ned</p> I will try to remember to sna…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-03:2177249:Comment:595932011-06-03T08:33:58.564ZLen Biglinhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
I will try to remember to snap some pictures thanks for the reminder Len
I will try to remember to snap some pictures thanks for the reminder Len You're welcome. No pictures f…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-03:2177249:Comment:593872011-06-03T07:03:58.245ZPierre-Antoine Roironhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PierreAntoineRoiron
You're welcome. No pictures for your neck joint needing some thought?
You're welcome. No pictures for your neck joint needing some thought? OK thanks Jim and Pierre.tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-02:2177249:Comment:596942011-06-02T18:51:21.297ZLen Biglinhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
OK thanks Jim and Pierre.
OK thanks Jim and Pierre. Follow Jim's advice below for…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-02:2177249:Comment:593842011-06-02T16:14:40.277ZPierre-Antoine Roironhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PierreAntoineRoiron
Follow Jim's advice below for joints' cleaning. I have no idea for you neck joint problem, I'm not familiar with mandolins, so I'd have to look carefully a guess if I had to work on it. Maybe some pictures would help.
Follow Jim's advice below for joints' cleaning. I have no idea for you neck joint problem, I'm not familiar with mandolins, so I'd have to look carefully a guess if I had to work on it. Maybe some pictures would help. Hide glue is the only glue to…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-02:2177249:Comment:596862011-06-02T12:06:20.419ZJim Bancrofthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/JimBancroft
<p>Hide glue is the only glue to use and you don't need to remove the old glue from the joint before regluing. If any dirt has entered the joint that needs to be cleaned the best you can.</p>
<p>You don't want to run sandpaper through the joint and change the joint contact. </p>
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<p>To clean the joint I'd first use compressed air and then clean with water and a toothbrush.</p>
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<p>Hide glue is the only glue to use and you don't need to remove the old glue from the joint before regluing. If any dirt has entered the joint that needs to be cleaned the best you can.</p>
<p>You don't want to run sandpaper through the joint and change the joint contact. </p>
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<p>To clean the joint I'd first use compressed air and then clean with water and a toothbrush.</p>
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<p>Jim</p> Ok thanks Pierre , I will try…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2011-06-02:2177249:Comment:596832011-06-02T11:47:05.749ZLen Biglinhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LenBiglin
Ok thanks Pierre , I will try to run some sandpaper through the gaps then use hide glue , also do you know about the neck joint on bowl-back mandolins ? it has some cracks around the neck/body joint , and it's a mystery because they are lined with paper .Len
Ok thanks Pierre , I will try to run some sandpaper through the gaps then use hide glue , also do you know about the neck joint on bowl-back mandolins ? it has some cracks around the neck/body joint , and it's a mystery because they are lined with paper .Len