Small quantities--sign painter's tape, 3M Stickit Gold - FRETS.NET2024-03-19T08:54:20Zhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/forum/topics/small-quantities-sign-painter-s-tape-3m-stickit-gold?commentId=2177249%3AComment%3A116701&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA sticky note on the guitar t…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-10-10:2177249:Comment:1197692013-10-10T23:16:54.495ZLARRY KLOSEhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>A sticky note on the guitar that is the subject of this discussion is one of the issues I started with. When shipped to me, the seller marked the bridge position with sticky notes. Unfortunately, the SN's crazed the surface of the nitro lacquer everywhere they were located. fortunately, it wasn't very deep so it polished out. Maybe it's safe for a short time but I've since been very wary of any tape product, especially when it's marked as not safe for lacquer. I always check it out.…</p>
<p>A sticky note on the guitar that is the subject of this discussion is one of the issues I started with. When shipped to me, the seller marked the bridge position with sticky notes. Unfortunately, the SN's crazed the surface of the nitro lacquer everywhere they were located. fortunately, it wasn't very deep so it polished out. Maybe it's safe for a short time but I've since been very wary of any tape product, especially when it's marked as not safe for lacquer. I always check it out. Caveat emptor and all that stuff.</p>
<p>Larry</p> Some interesting info from 3M…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-10-10:2177249:Comment:1199822013-10-10T22:35:54.032ZRobbie Collinshttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RobbieCollins
<p>Some interesting info from 3M about their masking tape:</p>
<div class="twister" id="WhatTypesofPaints" style="display: block;"><p>"ScotchBlue™ Painter’s Tape works well with most water-based paints and coatings, such as acrylic, urethane, vinyl latex and enamels. It also works well with many solvent-based coatings – alkalyds, varnishes, most enamels and some polyurethanes. In addition, ScotchBlue™ Painter’s Tape works well with plaster, glazes, textures and metallics used in faux and…</p>
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<p>Some interesting info from 3M about their masking tape:</p>
<div style="display: block;" id="WhatTypesofPaints" class="twister"><p>"ScotchBlue™ Painter’s Tape works well with most water-based paints and coatings, such as acrylic, urethane, vinyl latex and enamels. It also works well with many solvent-based coatings – alkalyds, varnishes, most enamels and some polyurethanes. In addition, ScotchBlue™ Painter’s Tape works well with plaster, glazes, textures and metallics used in faux and decorative painting.</p>
<p>However, be careful when working with lacquers – nitrocellulose-based lacquers react with the adhesive composition on many painter’s tapes, seemingly bonding the tape with the lacquer, making it impossible to remove. Before you start, make sure the tape you choose can be used with lacquers – <em>higher adhesion levels such as tan masking tapes are a better choice for this particular use, because their adhesive does not react with the lacquer in this way</em>".</p>
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<p>My italics - sounds like a recipe for disaster!</p>
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</div> This was an interesting read.…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-10-10:2177249:Comment:1197632013-10-10T21:41:07.013Zonewenthttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/onewent
<p>This was an interesting read.</p>
<p>Here's what I use for neck set protection from sandpaper grit. No name attached, but I got it in a hardware/paint store. The glue is like on a sticky note, and only covers about a 3/4" swath along the edge. No evidence of finish damage, but I don't usually leave it on more that a day or two, and many of the guitars I work on are from the 20', give or take. Tom…</p>
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<p>This was an interesting read.</p>
<p>Here's what I use for neck set protection from sandpaper grit. No name attached, but I got it in a hardware/paint store. The glue is like on a sticky note, and only covers about a 3/4" swath along the edge. No evidence of finish damage, but I don't usually leave it on more that a day or two, and many of the guitars I work on are from the 20', give or take. Tom</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167746817?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2167746817?profile=original" width="488"/></a></p> That looks pretty good, Larry…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-30:2177249:Comment:1190752013-09-30T20:53:55.334ZNed Knepphttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/NedKnepp
<p>That looks pretty good, Larry. If it plays well and sounds good it's worth it even if the dollar value isn't high. Too often "value" is confused with price.</p>
<p>That looks pretty good, Larry. If it plays well and sounds good it's worth it even if the dollar value isn't high. Too often "value" is confused with price.</p> So, this project came out fin…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-30:2177249:Comment:1192952013-09-30T16:55:22.586ZLARRY KLOSEhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>So, this project came out fine: new bridge fitted, problems solved. The bridge is from Cumberland Acoustics and is very nicely made of extremely high quality materials. It's also precise with extremely tight tolerances so it doesn't lean and transmits sound as well as one of these can do. I've had the same good experience with a CA bridge on my mandolin. Steve Smith of CA was also very helpful with some fitting issues, since the stock base (based on a vintage Gibson design) has quite a…</p>
<p>So, this project came out fine: new bridge fitted, problems solved. The bridge is from Cumberland Acoustics and is very nicely made of extremely high quality materials. It's also precise with extremely tight tolerances so it doesn't lean and transmits sound as well as one of these can do. I've had the same good experience with a CA bridge on my mandolin. Steve Smith of CA was also very helpful with some fitting issues, since the stock base (based on a vintage Gibson design) has quite a different curvature than my guitar. The guitar sounds better already, since the old bridge was a cheap import with low quality ebony (not very dense) and a poor design. The base had a top portion that was so thin that it flexed to conform to the top, so it probably was good at absorbing sound. The saddle was also a very sloppy fit. </p>
<p>To summarize some of the things I learned: 1) it's very hard to find masking tape that is compatible with nitro lacquer; 2) A good source of stick-on tape in small quantities is 6" stick on sanding discs (and they can be cut up to match the feet on two footed bridges); 3) a StewMac bridge fitting jig is really necessary to keep everything aligned. Thanks to a generous group member, I was able to borrow one which made the whole project successful. Since the top of the guitar was less than uniform, this was really necessary.</p>
<p>This is one of those "bargain" guitars which wasn't. Now that the bridge is done, I can make a new nut. I went to adjust a string slot that was tight and discovered that the nut is some kind of plastic... . Shoulda taken a look while the thing was apart. The frets are still marginal but it's playable for now. That's another project for another time.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone for their help. I learned a whole lot from all of you, both for this project and for others.</p>
<p>Larry</p> I just scanned over the discu…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-25:2177249:Comment:1190902013-09-25T01:26:50.637ZRandall Curtis Bowmanhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/RandallCurtisBowman
<p>I just scanned over the discussion, so if someone already mentioned this, my apologies. I believe somewhere on Mr. Ford's site was a note about applying the tape, whichever it is, to your shirt first. I find an old T-shirt works best, perhaps twice or three times, so that the adhesive picks up enough stray fibers to make it adhere less, and thus minimize potential damage. I've fit bridges on archtops and stringed instruments with no damage this way. I usually use the dark blue tape, the…</p>
<p>I just scanned over the discussion, so if someone already mentioned this, my apologies. I believe somewhere on Mr. Ford's site was a note about applying the tape, whichever it is, to your shirt first. I find an old T-shirt works best, perhaps twice or three times, so that the adhesive picks up enough stray fibers to make it adhere less, and thus minimize potential damage. I've fit bridges on archtops and stringed instruments with no damage this way. I usually use the dark blue tape, the 3-day version if I recall. Just an observation.</p> OK, forget all I said about 3…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-25:2177249:Comment:1192022013-09-25T00:49:36.475ZLARRY KLOSEhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>OK, forget all I said about 3M Green tape. The old roll I have says nothing about lacquer. At the hardware, today, however, I looked at a new roll and the label now says that it shouldn't be used on lacquer. I suspect a new formula for the adhesive... . Sheesh... .</p>
<p>Also, for small quantities of stick-it tape, I picked up a package of 6" Round sand paper for a disc sander. I just cut it up to use for the bridge fitting project I'm working on. Problem solved... . There's also 4…</p>
<p>OK, forget all I said about 3M Green tape. The old roll I have says nothing about lacquer. At the hardware, today, however, I looked at a new roll and the label now says that it shouldn't be used on lacquer. I suspect a new formula for the adhesive... . Sheesh... .</p>
<p>Also, for small quantities of stick-it tape, I picked up a package of 6" Round sand paper for a disc sander. I just cut it up to use for the bridge fitting project I'm working on. Problem solved... . There's also 4 1/2" square paper for vibrator sanders.</p>
<p>Larry</p> I have been on hol's for a bi…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-07:2177249:Comment:1174252013-09-07T12:07:50.073ZPeter Poyserhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/PeterPoyser
<p>I have been on hol's for a bit, so haven't seen a 3M Rep for a few weeks.</p>
<p>But I would imagine the Green Tape some folk have recommended to be a good bet.</p>
<p>One Company I have "an interest" in, use it for a highly complex multi - colour, wet on wet process, to temporarily mask off particular sections of a product, in areas where they don't want to build up of Paint layers, to become excessive.</p>
<p>Workers have to remove a section of masking material fixed in place with this…</p>
<p>I have been on hol's for a bit, so haven't seen a 3M Rep for a few weeks.</p>
<p>But I would imagine the Green Tape some folk have recommended to be a good bet.</p>
<p>One Company I have "an interest" in, use it for a highly complex multi - colour, wet on wet process, to temporarily mask off particular sections of a product, in areas where they don't want to build up of Paint layers, to become excessive.</p>
<p>Workers have to remove a section of masking material fixed in place with this tape, following one paint procedure, and directly prior to another. Everything sticks well in place using this Green Tape, but comes away very cleanly without residue, and it's a tricky operation.</p>
<p>They originally used a Blue Tape, but switched to the Green presumably because it's been found to be better. So without referring to the Rep, I would think it a good bet for this application, where you don't want the underlying material affected.</p>
<p>3M make a huge range of different Tapes in each colour range, so just check the application chart you get the right product.</p>
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<p>P</p> I had some 3M Blue tape damag…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-06:2177249:Comment:1174042013-09-06T06:51:51.663ZFrank Medinahttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/FrankMedina
I had some 3M Blue tape damage the finish on an 70's Gibson SG some years back. I was able to repair it, but I learned the hard way. "The Blue tape can give you the Blues." I use some of the 3M green tape, and have never had a problem. :)
I had some 3M Blue tape damage the finish on an 70's Gibson SG some years back. I was able to repair it, but I learned the hard way. "The Blue tape can give you the Blues." I use some of the 3M green tape, and have never had a problem. :) Scotch Green Hard-to-Stick (A…tag:fretsnet.ning.com,2013-09-04:2177249:Comment:1172832013-09-04T23:20:33.737ZLARRY KLOSEhttps://fretsnet.ning.com/profile/LARRYKLOSE
<p>Scotch Green Hard-to-Stick (AKA as the Lacquer Masking Tape Robbie Links) is great for sticking to all kinds of odd surfaces. I used it last year on masonry when I resprayed my outdoor wrought iron fencing.</p>
<p>I still have a big roll of 2" wide. I may use it when I fit my bridge... .</p>
<p>Larry</p>
<p>Scotch Green Hard-to-Stick (AKA as the Lacquer Masking Tape Robbie Links) is great for sticking to all kinds of odd surfaces. I used it last year on masonry when I resprayed my outdoor wrought iron fencing.</p>
<p>I still have a big roll of 2" wide. I may use it when I fit my bridge... .</p>
<p>Larry</p>