Bison Tix gel on nitro finish

[gijs]

Hi all,

 

Last year I bought a new Gibson Hummingbird. In its period in the shop the pickguard had come half loose, a common issue with Gibsons these days I heard. Since the guitar was new, the Gibson Service Dept. offered to fix the pickguard under warranty.

Initially they said to put on a new pickguard, but when I picked up my guitar after the repair they told me they had chosen to reattach the loose part of the originial pickguard to the guitar, for which they used a Bison glue: http://www.choiceful.com/choiceful-id-17276-Bison-Tix-Gel-Adhesive-...

 

I am not familiar with luthier's materials, but to me it sounded a bit strange that in the days where manufacturers almost all have moved from gluing pickguards to using a much less strong adhesive material, Gibson Service glued my pickguard using a strong glue.

 

My questions are basically:

- Do you think this glue can be used without harm on the nitro finish of my Hummingbird?

- Can I expect problems when both the pickguard and the guitar get influences by humidity/temp, since the strong glue is not as flexible as the adhesive material used nowadays?

 

Thanx,

Gijs

[Pierre-Antoine Roiron]

Strange. I'm not familiar with that glue, but it's a strange choice. I'm afraid you won't be able to remove it.

[Kerry Krishna]

Gijs, I understand your thinking about this, but it's kind of a moot point/done deal. You will never have to worry about your pickguard coming off again, and that was kind of the point anyway. I agree they used the wrong glue also, but they could have used too light a glue, and it come back off. That happened to me the 1st time I tried putting one on a guitar. I have had guitars come through my shop with the pickguard glued down with Crazy Glue a few times and once with epoxy oozing out all around it. People are nuts, and will use any tool (glue) available for the job at hand. Anyway, enjoy your guitar and try to stop thinking about it.

[gijs]

Thanx for your replies. Ok, the pickguard will stick now, but in my view the whole point of manufacturers moving to lighter adhesives was to enable future removal of the pickguard. Which Gibson themselves now made impossible for my guitar! And that with a guitar that is still under warranty.

But perhaps more important is whether you expect that the hard glue can cause problems if the wood starts working?

[Ned Knepp]

Ok, I'll bite.
I haven't used this adhesive but, from what I read about it, the base for it is polychloroprene rubber. In other words, neoprene. Are you sure this is really as hard and rigid as you seem to believe? Granted it may be hard to get the pick guard off, which I think is the point but I'm wondering why it should be a concern. It seems to me that a neoprene based adhesive should have plenty of flex to allow the wood substrate room to expand and contract. What am I missing?

Ned