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I was wondering if anybody on this forum would have any insight on what type of guitar I have in my shop.  My customer came in with this guitar that desperately needs a neck reset among other things.  It is a bolt on neck and seems to have the heel recessed into the neck block like a taylor would have.  My customer claims that he had gotten this guitar from someone who claimed that it had something to do with Martin.  I have searched the internet and can't find any info on it as it has no branding. I have already loosened the neck bolt but, the neck doesn't budge.  I don't want to start trying to disassemble the guitar as the customer isn't sure that he wants to do the work.  I just can't imagine how the neck angle on this guitar would be set.  I know taylor uses shims but this instrument seems to be a one off and can't imagine an individual luthier going through the trouble to make a neck joint like this.   

Thanks, 

Gary

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It's hard to get a read on the guitar overall with just three pictures but the neck block pretty much makes me think that there is not a strong chance this is a Martin. The depth and placement of the nut in the block also makes me think that there isn't a tenon on the neck at all so it's probably glued to the top of the body. Is there any sign of a extension on the neck under the fingerboard tongue? On a Taylor this is routed into the top of the guitar. 

 

What you show of the inside appears to be pretty clean. Maybe a kit?

Hi Ned, 

Thanks for the reply.  There is no extension and in fact the fingerboard is glued to the top. I highly doubt that it is associated with Martin as well.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that the heel is recessed like a Taylor.  I figure that a bolt on kit would just have a normal butt joint at the heel.  The work is pretty precise so it may had been a mass produced kit.  I don't think that there is a tenon on the neck either.  My problem is that my customer wants a new nut and saddle but I can't see making those for him when the guitar plays so poorly.  If the guitar had a butt joint resetting the neck would be easy and I wouldn't have any guess work.  

An early Moon Guitar?

Jimmy Moon of Scotland?

 

I was refering to the headstock inlay

 

There are several things about this guitar that say "Asian import" to me: the stark white binding, the pieced heel, the look of the kerfed lining, and the ply neckblock. The peghead inlay may be a modification. How much of the body is plywood?
This instrument has nothing whatever to do with the Martin Guitar Co.

just a thought. I am repairing a very early parlor guitar that needed a neck reset and I had an usually difficult time removing the

neck because it was not a dovetail joint but a joint like a violin neck with 1/4 inch of the sides of the heel glued into the neck

block cavity. Since this joint doesn't appear to be a tenon joint perhaps it was glued in like the one above and bolted on for

additional strength and also to make your repair life miserable.

Sure looks like one of Jimmy Moon's guitars, but, the moon inlay in your photos seems to be a reverse image of  Moon Guitar's logo. Computer photo manipulation problem?

Send Jimmy an e-mail with photos and see what his response is.

By the way, that is Bryan Adams holding his new Moon guitar in the photo above.

http://www.moonguitars.co.uk/

Regards to all,

Phil

And here is another famous face who has ordered a Moon guitar. But on this picture I think he is playing a "Moon Thomas Frazer Commemorative Guitar", a replica of a 1961 Levin Goliath (sold in US as Goya M-26).

 

 

 

 

Looks like Ovangkol bolt...also if I had it and removed the neck I'd replace that hardware store bolt w/a better system...brass insert into neck w/flat head hex key type bolt.Less noticable, more reliable imo....

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