Haze in finish after buffing

[William F.Eden]

I was woundering what you people clean your Instruments off after you buff them as I have a haze on mine and sometimes I wash them with soap and warm water and  it go's away  and some times not. Do you  use  some kind of wax after or what. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bill.''''''''''''''''''''''

[FRANK]

Are you high speed buffing or by hand?

[William F.Eden]

I am useing a two headed buffer on a 3\4 shaft 1\3 hp.at 1725 rpm.Frank thanks Bill.'''''''''

[Steve Beckwith]

Bill, I buff with Menzerna  and use the same set-up with one-half the rpm rate you're using.  I haven't had any issues with haze so I can't help you with suggestions on how to remove it but maybe preventing it from happening in the first place can be accomplished with a lower speed on your arbor as the higher rpm rate is could be causing your wax to get too warm...    Hopefully others will be able to add more to this thread...

[FRANK]

Is this a new finish and are you shooting Nitro ? or  rubbed out Shellac  ? is this an older instrument or new build? 1 2 3

[William F.Eden]

This is on new Instruments on Nitro Frank       And Steve this is a belt drive I did'nt think it was going to fast you don't have any trobal stoping it when you put a little presure on it .But the way it looks you would think that the compond was getting to warm thougt.   I now have 10'' buffers on it and I was thinking of buying some new 14'' for it now that Stw Mac has them for a 3\4 shaft I buff with the med and the fine that Stu Mac  has. I had a Machin shop make this buffer for me as I wunted a longer shaft and I had the 3\4 buffer weels Bill.''''''''''''

[FRANK]

Yyou trapped Moister do you have inline water traps inline to your spray gun maby empty the compressor of water what is the temperature of the city your in and humidity... below 70 degrees A no and above 70 percent humidity Nitro is a NO GO for Both .

[Steve Beckwith]

Frank, if he had moisture trapped, wouldn't he see it before he buffed the finish?

 

[William F.Eden]

Sorry it is not in the Finish it's on the surface thanks

[FRANK]

that's possible did you check the wood with a moisture meter before building?what do you think it might be?

[FRANK]

and or you can do a quick wipe of reduced very very quick and soft to the touch and the white blemish should /may go away I am almost thinking it was cheaper thinner and cold out.This causes lacquer to blemish white if so the following is 1 way to solve the issue .Good Luck

[Mike Kolb]

The typical buffer for what we do will usually like to run between 750-850rpm.  Sounds like 1725rpm is too high, but who knows.  I like to run the slower speed and also keep a real loose drive belt, which serves as a 'safety' in the event that too much buffing pressure is inadvertently placed on the instrument.    

Keep the individual wheels dedicated to the specific grits and work all the way up to regular "guitar polish" before deciding there's a hazing issue. If I find an issue, it's usually because I tried to take a shortcut somewhere in the grit steps.

[William F.Eden]

From what I am hearing on this thread it would seem that the speed of the buffer is the problem. I  would like to thank all you people for your help on my problem. And good luck with any you may have.   Bill.''''''''''''''''''''''''''''